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Seraphina Delan

How do Tax write offs work for stock market losses? Understanding capital gains and losses

I started investing in the stock market about 6 months ago, and it's been a rollercoaster ride to say the least. While learning the ropes, I've had my share of losses, though overall I'm now up about $800 for the year. I keep hearing about this $3000 tax write-off for stock losses, but I'm confused about how it actually works. Let's say I've made profitable trades totaling $800, but I've also had some losing trades totaling $300 during the same year. For tax purposes, would I need to pay taxes on the full $800 in profits, or can I write off the $300 in losses and only pay taxes on $500? All my trades were bought and sold within the same year, so I know they fall under short-term capital gains tax rates. I'm trying to understand if you need to be at an overall loss for the year to claim the write-off, or if you can still deduct losses even when you're profitable overall. Any insights would be appreciated!

Jabari-Jo

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You don't need to be at an overall loss to deduct your losing trades. The tax code actually requires you to net your gains and losses together. In your example, you'd report $800 in gains and $300 in losses, resulting in a net capital gain of $500. That's the amount you'd pay taxes on as short-term capital gains (which is taxed at your ordinary income rate). The $3,000 limit you're referring to comes into play when your overall capital losses exceed your capital gains for the year. If you had $2,000 in gains but $5,000 in losses, you'd have a net loss of $3,000. You can deduct up to $3,000 of net capital losses against your other income in any given tax year. Any remaining losses above $3,000 would carry forward to future tax years. Make sure you're keeping good records of all your trades, including dates and cost basis. You'll need to report all these transactions on Schedule D of your tax return.

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Kristin Frank

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Thanks for explaining, but I'm still a bit confused. Let's say I lost $5000 on one stock but made $4000 on another stock. So I'm at a net loss of $1000 for the year. Can I deduct that full $1000 from my regular income? And is there any advantage to selling more losing stocks before year end to increase my deduction?

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Jabari-Jo

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In your scenario with a $5,000 loss and $4,000 gain, you'd have a net capital loss of $1,000. Yes, you can deduct that full $1,000 against your other income (like wages) on your tax return. The IRS allows you to deduct up to $3,000 in net capital losses against other income per year. Regarding selling more losing stocks before year-end, this is called "tax-loss harvesting" and can be a smart strategy. If you have investments that are currently at a loss, selling them before December 31st lets you use those losses to offset any gains or up to $3,000 of ordinary income. Just be aware of the "wash-sale rule" - if you buy the same or substantially identical security within 30 days before or after selling at a loss, you can't claim that loss for tax purposes.

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Cedric Chung

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Something important to remember that no one mentioned yet - the $3,000 limit is for deducting capital losses against ordinary income. There's no limit on using capital losses to offset capital gains. So if you had $10,000 in losses and $8,000 in gains, you'd first offset the entire $8,000 in gains, then you could deduct up to $3,000 of the remaining $2,000 loss against your ordinary income. The remaining $1,000 would carry forward to next year. This is why tax loss harvesting can be such an effective strategy for high-income earners. Selling losers strategically can help offset gains from winners.

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Talia Klein

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What about if you do this multiple years in a row? Like if I've been losing money trading for several years (don't judge lol), can I keep claiming $3k each year or is there a lifetime limit?

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Cedric Chung

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There's no lifetime limit on capital loss deductions! You can continue to deduct up to $3,000 per year against your ordinary income for as many years as necessary until all your accumulated losses are used up. For example, if you had a massive $30,000 trading loss in 2025 with no gains to offset it, you could deduct $3,000 per year for the next 10 years (assuming you have no capital gains in those years to offset against). The IRS essentially allows you to spread that large loss across multiple tax years. The unused losses don't expire - they carry forward indefinitely until they're used up or until you pass away, at which point any remaining loss carryovers are lost.

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I just wanna add one more thing about wash sales since people keep mentioning them. The rule applies across ALL your accounts, even retirement accounts! I found this out the hard way. Sold TSLA at a loss in my regular brokerage account then bought it back in my Roth IRA 2 weeks later thinking I was being clever. Nope! IRS disallowed the loss. The wash sale rule doesn't care which account you rebuy in - if it's within 30 days and substantially identical, the loss gets disallowed.

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PaulineW

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That's a really good point. Does anyone know if it applies to options too? Like if I sell stock XYZ at a loss but then buy call options on XYZ within 30 days, is that a wash sale?

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Yara Haddad

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Yes, options can definitely trigger wash sales! If you sell stock at a loss and then buy call options on the same stock within 30 days, the IRS considers that a wash sale. Same goes for selling calls at a loss and buying the underlying stock, or other combinations involving puts and calls. The "substantially identical" rule is pretty broad when it comes to options. Even buying options with different strike prices or expiration dates can sometimes trigger it if they're on the same underlying security. The IRS looks at the economic substance of the transaction, not just the technical details. This is another area where keeping detailed records becomes crucial, especially if you're actively trading both stocks and options on the same companies.

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