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Tyler Murphy

How do IRS payment plans work when I owe a large tax bill?

I recently got hit with a tax bill that's around $65k and I'm trying to figure out how payment plans with the IRS actually work. This is completely new territory for me. I make approximately $60k per year, and for the first time in my life at 44, I've managed to build up a small emergency fund. I'm really worried about what's going to happen to my savings and lifestyle. Will the IRS require me to use all my savings first? Am I expected to sell assets like my car to pay this off? Will I be able to maintain a reasonable standard of living or will I need to hand over every extra dollar I make? For the past few years I've been living super frugally (fast food value meals and lots of canned food) to build my savings, and I'm scared of losing everything I've worked for. What should I realistically expect from an IRS payment plan with this amount of debt?

Sara Unger

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The IRS generally doesn't expect you to drain your savings completely or sell essential assets like your car to pay your tax debt. They're mainly concerned with setting up a realistic payment plan that gets them paid while allowing you to maintain a basic standard of living. For a tax debt of $65k, you have several options. If you can pay it off within 72 months (6 years), you can set up a Simple Installment Agreement online if the debt is under $50k, or by phone/mail if it's over that amount. Based on your $60k income, you might be looking at payments around $900-1200 monthly, depending on your other financial obligations. If that's too high, you can submit Form 433-F (Collection Information Statement) which details your income, expenses, and assets. The IRS will use this to determine what they consider a reasonable monthly payment. They allow for basic living expenses including housing, transportation, food, utilities, and some other necessities.

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Thanks for the info. Do they factor in other debts like student loans or credit cards when figuring out what you can pay? And what happens if your income changes during the payment plan - like if you lose your job or get a higher paying one?

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Sara Unger

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Yes, the IRS does consider your other debt obligations when determining your payment amount, though they prioritize tax debt over certain other types of debt. They're primarily focused on your essential living expenses rather than discretionary debt, but things like student loans are factored in. If your income changes significantly during your payment plan, you should contact the IRS immediately to adjust your plan. If your income decreases, they can temporarily reduce payments or even place your account in Currently Not Collectible status if you genuinely can't pay. If your income increases, they may expect you to increase your payment amount or even pay off the balance more quickly.

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Alice Pierce

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One thing to consider is requesting Currently Not Collectible (CNC) status if your financial situation is truly dire. I owed $42k and could prove that paying anything would create a financial hardship. The IRS temporarily placed my account in CNC status. The debt doesn't go away (interest and penalties still accrue), but they stop collection activities while you get back on your feet. You'll need to complete Form 433-F thoroughly documenting your income, expenses, assets, and liabilities. Be prepared to provide bank statements, pay stubs, utility bills, etc. The IRS will periodically review your situation to see if your finances have improved. It's not ideal because the debt grows over time, but it can give you breathing room if you're truly struggling.

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Esteban Tate

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How does the IRS determine "financial hardship" though? Is there a specific threshold? I make about the same as OP ($55k) but have a ton of medical debt on top of my tax debt.

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Alice Pierce

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There's no fixed income threshold for financial hardship - it's based on whether you have any money left after paying your allowable necessary living expenses. The IRS uses their Collection Financial Standards which specify reasonable amounts for categories like housing, utilities, food, transportation, and healthcare. Medical debt is definitely considered in this calculation, especially if you can document ongoing payments. Make sure to include all your medical bills and payment plans when you complete Form 433-F. With significant medical debt, you might actually qualify for CNC status even at your income level, depending on your other expenses and your total tax debt. The key is thorough documentation of every necessary expense.

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Has anyone tried working with a tax attorney instead of dealing with the IRS directly? I'm in a similar situation owing about $45k and wondering if it's worth the expense.

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Elin Robinson

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I used a tax attorney for my $60k bill and honestly regret it. Cost me $3,500 and they just put me on a standard payment plan I could have set up myself. Unless you have a complex situation or potential for an Offer in Compromise, it might be overkill.

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I'm going through something similar right now - owe about $58k and was terrified they'd force me to liquidate everything. After working with the IRS directly, I can confirm what others have said about them being more reasonable than expected. They absolutely do NOT require you to drain your entire savings or sell essential assets like your car. The key is being completely honest about your financial situation. When I filled out Form 433-F, I documented every expense including my modest emergency fund (about 3 months of expenses) and they accepted it as reasonable. They even acknowledged that having some emergency savings actually makes you more likely to stick to the payment plan. My advice: don't panic and start liquidating assets before talking to them. With your $60k income, you'll likely qualify for a payment plan around $800-1000/month depending on your other expenses. The IRS wants to get paid, not destroy your ability to earn income or maintain basic living standards. Take a deep breath - this is manageable even though it feels overwhelming right now.

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Evelyn Xu

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone going through the exact same situation. I've been losing sleep over this $65k bill thinking I'd have to give up everything I've worked so hard to save. Your point about the emergency fund actually making you more likely to stick to the payment plan makes total sense - if something unexpected happens and you have no cushion, you'd probably default on the IRS payments too. Did you end up doing the Form 433-F yourself or did you get help with it? I'm worried about making mistakes on the paperwork that could hurt my case.

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Liam Cortez

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I filled out Form 433-F myself, but I was extremely thorough and double-checked everything multiple times. The form itself isn't too complicated - it's basically a detailed budget worksheet - but accuracy is crucial since they'll verify the information you provide. My recommendation would be to gather all your financial documents first (bank statements, pay stubs, bills, etc.) and then take your time filling it out. The IRS provides instructions for each section, and there are examples online of what constitutes "reasonable" expenses in different categories. If you're really unsure about something major, a quick consultation with a tax professional might be worth it just for the peace of mind, but you can definitely handle the form yourself if you're detail-oriented. The most important thing is being honest and thorough. Don't try to hide assets or inflate expenses - they will verify everything. But also don't shortchange yourself on legitimate necessary expenses. Things like your emergency fund, reasonable housing costs, transportation, food, utilities, and healthcare are all acceptable. You've got this!

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