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How do I reduce taxes when taking large withdrawals from my IRA and brokerage account after retiring?

Hi all, I'm planning my retirement withdrawals and could use some advice. I'm looking to pull a substantial amount from both my traditional IRA and my brokerage account next year. I'm 64 and planning to fully retire at 65, but I need to access about $185,000 to pay off my mortgage and do some home renovations before I stop working completely. I've been saving diligently for 25 years and have approximately $1.2M in my IRA and about $650K in a brokerage account. My big concern is the tax hit I'll take when making these withdrawals, especially from the IRA where I know I'll pay ordinary income tax rates. I've heard about strategies like Roth conversions, tax-loss harvesting, and being strategic about which investments to sell from my brokerage account (some have significant capital gains). I'm wondering what strategies people here have used to minimize the tax impact when making large withdrawals? Should I spread this out over 2 tax years? Should I take more from the brokerage and less from the IRA? Any creative ideas to reduce my tax liability would be greatly appreciated!

You're smart to be thinking about this now before making those withdrawals! Taking out $185k in one year could definitely push you into a higher tax bracket, especially from the IRA where it's all taxed as ordinary income. Here are some strategies to consider: First, splitting the withdrawals between tax years is almost always a good idea. If you can take half in December 2025 and half in January 2026, you'll spread the income across two tax years and potentially keep yourself in a lower bracket each year. For your brokerage account, you should identify specific lots with the highest cost basis to sell first. This minimizes capital gains. Many brokerages allow you to select which shares to sell rather than using the default FIFO (first-in, first-out) method. You might also look at your overall tax situation - do you have any capital losses you could harvest to offset gains? Any charitable inclinations? Qualified Charitable Distributions from your IRA could reduce your taxable income if you're charitably minded. Also, consider whether taking more from your brokerage account makes sense even if you have some capital gains, as those are generally taxed at a lower rate than ordinary income from your IRA.

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Thanks for this breakdown! My situation is somewhat similar but I'm 63 with about $900k in my IRA. Quick question - would it make sense to do a partial Roth conversion in the years leading up to these large withdrawals? I've heard that might help but I'm not sure of the timing.

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Roth conversions can definitely be a smart strategy, especially if you're currently in a lower tax bracket than you expect to be when taking distributions. The ideal time for conversions is typically in lower-income years before RMDs begin at age 73. The key with Roth conversions is to convert enough to "fill up" your current tax bracket without pushing into the next one. Just remember that you'll need to pay taxes on the converted amount in the year you do it, so having cash outside the IRA to pay those taxes is important. Also, consider the 5-year rule - you need to wait five years after conversion before withdrawing the converted amount penalty-free.

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How does taxr.ai handle things like tax-loss harvesting? I've got some underwater investments I've been holding onto specifically to offset gains when I need to sell winners.

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How does this actually work? Do they just call and wait on hold for you? Why would that be faster than me calling myself?

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Yeah right. The IRS doesn't give personalized tax advice like that. They just tell you what the official rules are. I've tried calling them before and they specifically say they don't give tax planning advice.

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They use a system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. When an agent is about to pick up, you get a call. It's faster because they're using some kind of technology that maintains your place in line without you having to sit there listening to hold music for hours. You're right that the IRS won't give "tax planning advice" in the sense of telling you the optimal strategy, but they absolutely will clarify how specific transactions should be reported and what documentation you need. In my case, I needed clarification on how to properly document a series of withdrawals that qualified for an exception to the early withdrawal penalty. The agent explained exactly what forms and documentation I needed so I wouldn't have issues if I got audited. That kind of procedural guidance is definitely within what they provide.

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Don't forget to think about Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) in your planning. At 64, you're getting close to when those kick in at age 73. Large withdrawals now might actually help you in the long run by reducing your IRA balance before RMDs start forcing distributions (potentially at higher tax rates if tax rates go up or your other income increases). Also, many people don't realize that Medicare premiums (IRMAA surcharges) are based on your income from 2 years prior. So if you're planning to enroll in Medicare at 65, large withdrawals now could increase your premiums when you first enroll.

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This is a really good point about IRMAA surcharges I hadn't considered. Do you know if the income thresholds for those surcharges are based on AGI or some other calculation?

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Medicare IRMAA surcharges are based on your Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI), which for most people is essentially your AGI plus tax-exempt interest income. For 2025, the first IRMAA tier starts at $103,000 for single filers and $206,000 for married filing jointly. It's worth noting that large one-time income events like what you're planning can sometimes qualify for an IRMAA exception if you can demonstrate it was a one-time event and your income has decreased since then. There's an official form (SSA-44) you can file to request this adjustment if your income drops in subsequent years.

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Has anyone tried doing 72t distributions (SEPP - Substantially Equal Periodic Payments) to avoid the 10% penalty on early IRA withdrawals? I'm 59 so wouldn't apply to me anymore but might help someone younger reading this thread.

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I did a 72t for a few years starting at age 52. It works but it's super restrictive - you have to take the exact calculated amount each year for 5 years or until 59.5, whichever is longer. If you mess up even once, all your distributions get hit with penalties retroactively.

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One strategy I don't see mentioned yet - consider using a Qualified Charitable Distribution (QCD) if you have any charitable intentions. Once you're 70.5, you can donate up to $105,000 directly from your IRA to charity without counting it as taxable income. This can be especially powerful for reducing your AGI which affects everything from Medicare premiums to how much of your Social Security gets taxed.

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This is such a comprehensive discussion! As someone who went through this exact scenario two years ago, I'd add one more consideration: timing your withdrawals around your state tax situation. If you're in a high-tax state now but planning to move to a no-tax or low-tax state in retirement, it might be worth accelerating some withdrawals after you move. Also, don't overlook the Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT) - that additional 3.8% tax on investment income kicks in at $200k MAGI for single filers. Large brokerage withdrawals with significant gains could push you into this territory. One last tip: if you have a Health Savings Account, maximize those contributions now while you're still working. HSA money can be withdrawn penalty-free for medical expenses at any age, and after 65 it can be withdrawn for any purpose (taxed as ordinary income, like an IRA). Given healthcare costs in retirement, having that tax-free bucket for medical expenses can be incredibly valuable.

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