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Javier Morales

How and when to report trade-in of business vehicles for food delivery tax deduction

I've been doing food delivery as my main gig throughout 2023 and went through a couple of vehicle changes that I'm confused about for my taxes. I traded in vehicles twice and I'm not sure if/how I need to report these for tax purposes. Started the year with a 2014 Honda Civic that I used about 20% for delivery work. In April, I traded it in for $5,500 toward a 2020 Hyundai Elantra which I used about 85% for business purposes. Then in October, I decided to switch careers to something requiring a pickup, so I traded the Elantra in for $22,000 (took about a $2,000 loss) and purchased a Ford Ranger. Do I have to report these vehicle trade-ins somewhere on my taxes? Does it count as income? What form would I use and what calculations do I need to make? This is my first year with vehicle changes while self-employed and I'm completely lost on how this works for business vehicle reporting.

Emma Davis

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The good news is that vehicle trade-ins for business purposes aren't reported as income, but you do need to account for them on your tax return. Since you're using these vehicles for self-employment (food delivery), you'll need to handle this on your Schedule C. For each vehicle, you need to calculate the business portion of any gain or loss. For example, with your Honda Civic that was 20% business use, you'd only report 20% of any gain/loss from that transaction. For the Elantra that was 85% business, you'd report 85% of that transaction's gain/loss. The trade-ins themselves are considered like-kind exchanges for tax purposes. This means you generally defer the gain/loss rather than recognizing it immediately. You'll need to adjust the basis of your new vehicle by the deferred gain/loss from the old one. For the actual reporting, you'll use Form 4562 for depreciation and Section 179 deduction alongside your Schedule C. You'll need to provide information about each vehicle, the dates placed in service, business percentage use, and cost basis.

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GalaxyGlider

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But wait, aren't like-kind exchanges for vehicles not allowed anymore after the 2017 tax changes? I thought the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act limited like-kind exchanges to real estate only. Wouldn't vehicle trade-ins now need to be treated as a sale and purchase? This stuff is so confusing!

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Emma Davis

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You're absolutely right, and I apologize for my error. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act did indeed change the rules for like-kind exchanges, limiting them to real estate only. Vehicle trade-ins are now treated as two separate transactions - a sale of your old vehicle and the purchase of your new one. For each vehicle you traded in, you'll need to calculate if there was a gain or loss. Take the trade-in value you received and subtract your adjusted basis (original cost minus depreciation taken). If the business percentage was 20% for the first vehicle, then 20% of any gain would be reported as ordinary income on your Schedule C. Similarly, for the 85% business vehicle, you'd report 85% of any gain or loss.

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CosmicCadet

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you were taking the standard mileage rate for your vehicles rather than actual expenses, the rules are a bit different for reporting trade-ins. When using standard mileage, you're deemed to have claimed all depreciation allowed, which affects your basis calculation. This can create a larger taxable gain when you trade in or sell, even if you didn't explicitly calculate depreciation yourself. Also, don't forget that each of your vehicles had different business use percentages, which complicates the calculations further.

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Chloe Harris

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This is super confusing! So if I've been claiming standard mileage for my Uber driving, and I trade in my car, I might owe taxes even if I lost money on the trade-in? How do I figure out how much "deemed depreciation" I've taken if I never actually calculated it myself?

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CosmicCadet

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Exactly - you might owe taxes even if you took a loss on paper. The standard mileage rate includes a component for depreciation (it changes yearly but was about $0.27 per mile for 2023). The IRS considers you to have "taken" this depreciation whether you calculated it or not. To figure out your deemed depreciation, multiply your business miles each year by the depreciation component of the standard mileage rate for those years. Add these up for all years you've owned the vehicle. This total is subtracted from your original basis to get your adjusted basis, which is what you use to determine gain/loss.

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Diego Mendoza

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Don't make this harder than it needs to be! The food delivery apps should have sent you a 1099-NEC or 1099-K showing your income. Just report that on Schedule C. For the vehicles, if youre using standard mileage, you just track miles and multiply by the rate (65.5 cents per mile for 2023). no need to worry about all this complicated trade-in stuff unless your accountant says so!!!!

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That's completely wrong advice that could get the OP audited. Vehicle trade-ins for business assets absolutely need to be reported correctly. The standard mileage rate simplifies tracking expenses but doesn't eliminate the need to properly handle asset disposition. Please don't spread misinformation on tax matters if you're not certain.

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