Help with Form 709 Gift Tax Return - Credit Amount Question for $60k Gift
I'm stuck trying to fill out Form 709 for a gift I made this year and could really use some guidance. I gave my college roommate $60,000 to help with their medical bills and now I need to report it. This is my first time ever giving anyone money that exceeds the annual exclusion, so I've never filed a 709 before. My main confusion is with Part 2 of the form - specifically what to put as the credit amount. From what I've read online, I think I'm supposed to put the entire lifetime exemption amount of $12.92 million, but I'm honestly not sure if that's right. Would anyone mind looking over what I've done so far to make sure I'm not screwing this up? The form isn't super complicated but I want to get it right before I send it to the IRS. Any help would be really appreciated!
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Javier Cruz
I help folks with gift tax returns frequently. For Part 2 of Form 709, you're on the right track, but there's a slight misunderstanding. The lifetime gift tax exemption for 2023 is $12.92 million (or $25.84 million for married couples who split gifts), not $4.5M. This is the amount you can give throughout your lifetime before actually owing gift taxes. Since this is your first time filing Form 709 and you've never used any of your lifetime exemption before, you'd enter the full available credit amount. The $60,000 gift will use some of your lifetime exemption (specifically the amount over the annual exclusion of $17,000), but you won't owe any actual tax unless you've exceeded the lifetime limit. Make sure you complete Schedule A to report the gift details and then carry those amounts to Part 1 of the form. Part 2 will calculate how much of your lifetime exemption you're using with this gift.
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Emma Wilson
•Thanks for explaining! I have a similar situation but I'm gifting to multiple people. Do I need to file a separate 709 for each person or can I put them all on one form? Also, does giving a gift to my son's college directly for tuition count toward this limit?
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Javier Cruz
•You only need one Form 709 for all gifts made during the calendar year. Schedule A of Form 709 has spaces for multiple recipients - you'll list each person separately along with their information and gift details. Just make sure to complete all the required parts for each gift. Regarding your second question, payments made directly to educational institutions for tuition are considered "qualified transfers" and are exempt from gift tax regardless of amount. These don't count against your annual exclusion or lifetime exemption, and you don't need to report them on Form 709. This exception only applies for direct payments to the school for tuition specifically - not for books, supplies, or room and board.
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Malik Thomas
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•Does taxr.ai work if I've already filed previous 709 forms? My situation is more complicated because I've used some of my lifetime exemption already, and I'm confused about how to calculate the remaining amount correctly.
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Chloe Davis
Pro tip from someone who's filed multiple 709s: Make sure you're using the right year's form! The lifetime exemption amount changes yearly, and using outdated forms is a common mistake. For 2023, the lifetime gift tax exemption is $12.92 million per individual. Also, don't forget to check if any of your gifts qualify for the annual exclusion ($17,000 per recipient for 2023). Only amounts above this threshold count against your lifetime exemption. And keep copies of ALL your 709 forms forever - you'll need them for reference when you file in future years and eventually for estate tax purposes.
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AstroAlpha
•What about gifts to my spouse? Do I need to file a 709 for those? And does the annual exclusion apply to gifts to foreign nationals? I'm planning to help my brother-in-law who lives in Canada.
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Chloe Davis
•Gifts to your spouse who is a U.S. citizen are completely exempt from gift tax and don't require filing Form 709. This is called the unlimited marital deduction. However, if your spouse is not a U.S. citizen, there's a special annual exclusion ($175,000 for 2023) for gifts to them, and amounts over that would require filing. For gifts to foreign nationals like your Canadian brother-in-law, the same rules apply as for U.S. citizens. You still get the $17,000 annual exclusion per recipient (for 2023). Only amounts above that would need to be reported on Form 709 and count against your lifetime exemption. The recipient's nationality or residence doesn't change your filing requirements - it's based solely on you as the U.S. donor.
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Diego Chavez
Has anyone used TurboTax to file Form 709? I'm trying to figure out if their Premier version actually handles gift tax returns properly or if I should just do the paper form. The software costs so much and I don't want to pay if it can't handle this form correctly.
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Anastasia Smirnova
•I tried using TurboTax for Form 709 last year and wouldn't recommend it. The interface for gift tax returns is confusing and doesn't provide enough guidance for Part 2 calculations. I ended up having to redo everything on the paper form anyway. If you're making a substantial gift that affects your lifetime exemption, it's worth either using a specialized tax professional or carefully completing the paper form yourself.
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Jade Santiago
Just wanted to share my experience since I was in a very similar situation last year. I gave my sister $65,000 for her business startup and was completely lost on Form 709. The key thing that helped me was understanding that Part 2, Line 4 is where you enter your AVAILABLE unified credit, not the total lifetime exemption amount. Since this was my first gift over the annual exclusion, I entered the full unified credit amount of $5,113,800 (which corresponds to the $12.92 million exemption). The taxable gift amount ($60,000 - $17,000 annual exclusion = $43,000) gets calculated in Part 1, and then Part 2 figures out how much of your credit you're using. One mistake I almost made was forgetting to attach Schedule A with all the gift details. Make sure you complete that first before moving to the main form. The IRS needs to see exactly what you gave, to whom, and when. Good luck with your filing!
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