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Omar Farouk

First-time tax filer shock - expected refund but got a bill instead!

Hey everyone, I'm freaking out a bit here. This was my first year filing taxes on my own and I went through one of those tax prep services at the same place I got my car loan (terrible decision, I know now). The guy seemed confident and said I'd be getting around $1,200 back based on my work situation. I was so excited about that refund! Well, fast forward three weeks and I just got this official-looking letter from the IRS saying I actually OWE $780 in taxes instead of getting anything back. I'm completely blindsided by this. The letter mentions something about "underreported income" but I literally only had one job all year and they had all my W-2 info. I'm totally lost on what might have happened here. Did the tax preparer mess up? Did I miss something? I don't have a lot of savings and wasn't planning on having to pay this. Any tips on what could have gone wrong or what I should do next? Is there a way to figure out where the discrepancy is coming from?

CosmicCadet

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Having your expected refund turn into a tax bill is definitely stressful, especially as a first-time filer! There are several common reasons this might have happened. First, check if the tax preparer included all your income sources. Even if you had one main job, things like unemployment benefits, gig work, investment income, or cancelled debt can be taxable. The IRS letter mentioning "underreported income" suggests they have record of money you received that wasn't accounted for on your return. Second, verify your withholding was entered correctly. If your employer didn't withhold enough taxes throughout the year, you'd end up owing at tax time regardless of how accurately your return was prepared. I'd recommend getting a copy of your tax return from the preparer and comparing it with the IRS notice. Look specifically for any discrepancies in income amounts. You can also request a wage and income transcript from the IRS website to see exactly what income was reported to them under your SSN.

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Chloe Harris

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So if the preparer messed up, is the original poster responsible for fixing it or are they? And if there's a discrepancy between what the tax prep place submitted and what the IRS says, who pays any penalties?

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CosmicCadet

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You're ultimately responsible for the accuracy of your return, even if someone else prepared it. If there's an error, you'll need to file an amended return to correct it, though a reputable preparer should help with this at no additional cost if it was their mistake. As for penalties, if you pay the amount owed before the deadline on the notice, you can often avoid most penalties. If the error was clearly the preparer's fault, you might be able to ask them to cover penalty costs, though this depends on their policies and your agreement with them.

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Nia Wilson

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Did you do your taxes through one of those refund anticipation loan places? Like where they offer you an "instant refund" that's actually a loan against your expected refund? Because those places are notorious for adding huge fees that eat into your refund without making it super clear. Sometimes people walk in expecting a refund and walk out owing money because of all the fees.

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Omar Farouk

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Yeah it was exactly one of those places. The guy kept talking about how I could get my money "same day" which sounded great at the time. I didn't realize they were taking out so much in fees until I looked at the paperwork later. But that still doesn't explain why the IRS is saying I owe them directly, right? The fees would have just reduced my refund, not made me actually owe more taxes... unless I'm misunderstanding something. The letter specifically mentions underreported income, which doesn't seem related to the preparation fees.

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Nia Wilson

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You're right - the fees would just reduce your refund, not change what you owe the IRS. Those are separate issues. The "underreported income" means the IRS has records of you receiving more money than what was reported on your tax return. Do you have any side hustles, even small ones? Sell anything valuable? Cash any large checks? Receive any unemployment at any point? Sometimes even bank interest or dividends from an account you forgot about can trigger these notices. Check the letter carefully - it might specify exactly what income they think is missing.

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For next year, I HIGHLY recommend avoiding those tax places that offer loans or "instant refunds." Use a free filing option like IRS Free File or even a basic paid option like TurboTax or H&R Block online (still cheaper than in-person). Those loan places target first-time filers and low-income folks with promises of fast money, but they're basically predatory with their fees.

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Aisha Hussain

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Is Credit Karma Tax still free? I used it last year and it was pretty straightforward even though I had some 1099 income and a W-2.

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Ethan Clark

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Always always ALWAYS get a copy of your completed tax return before you leave any tax preparation place!!! I worked at one of those places for two tax seasons and you wouldn't believe how many people just sign whatever's put in front of them without reviewing it. Go back to the place, tell them you got this IRS notice, and ask them to explain what happened. Most places offer some kind of guarantee or audit support. Make them earn their ridiculous fees by actually helping you sort this out.

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Omar Farouk

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I did get copies but honestly I don't understand half of what's on them. There are all these forms and schedules that don't make any sense to me. But I'll definitely go back and ask them to explain. Do you think they might have entered something wrong on purpose to make it look like I'd get a bigger refund? The guy kept talking about how he could "maximize" my refund which sounded good at the time.

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Ethan Clark

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It's unlikely they did something fraudulent on purpose (that could cost them their business), but they might have been sloppy or made assumptions without asking you proper questions. Sometimes preparers at those places work on commission based on how many returns they process, so they rush through them. When you go back, ask specifically about the "underreported income" mentioned in the IRS letter. They should be able to run a comparison between what they submitted and what the IRS has on file for you. Don't leave until you understand what happened - it's your money and your tax record at stake.

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