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Heather Tyson

Filing taxes by mail - can I attach pictures of my W-2 instead of the actual W-2 forms?

I'm in a bit of a situation with my taxes this year. I'm using TurboTax but it's telling me I need to file by mail because I'm missing one of my W-2s and had to complete a Form 4852 (substitute W-2). This is only my 3rd time doing taxes myself and first time mailing them in. I'm currently working overseas in Thailand, and all my W-2 forms were delivered to my parents' house in Oregon. They took photos of the W-2s and emailed them to me, which is what I used to input my information into TurboTax. The problem is that after I printed everything out, the instructions say I need to physically attach my W-2 forms to the return - but I only have digital pictures of them, not the actual documents. Two questions: 1. Can I just print out the pictures of my W-2s and attach those instead of the originals? 2. Is there any specific way I need to mail my return (special envelope, certified mail, etc.) or can I just put everything in a regular envelope and send it through regular international mail? Thanks for any help! This tax stuff is so confusing when you're not in the country.

Raul Neal

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You're in a tricky situation, but there are solutions. When it comes to your W-2s, the IRS requires the actual forms rather than printed photos because the official forms contain security features and special paper that photos don't capture. However, given your international situation, here's what you can do: Ask your parents to mail the original W-2s to you in Thailand, then attach them to your return before mailing. If that's not possible time-wise, you have a few options: 1) You can have your parents mail the original return with the attached W-2s from the US, or 2) You can file Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) for ALL your W-2s, not just the missing one. Your photos will help you complete these accurately. For mailing your return, use a secure envelope or flat rate USPS priority envelope. Make sure to send it with tracking and possibly certification so you have proof of mailing and delivery. Regular international mail isn't recommended for tax returns due to potential delays or loss. The address to mail to is on your tax forms. Don't forget to sign and date your return before mailing - unsigned returns aren't considered valid!

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Jenna Sloan

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What about having the parents scan the W-2s instead of taking photos? Would scanned copies be acceptable to the IRS? And how long does the IRS typically take to process paper returns these days?

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Raul Neal

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Unfortunately, scanned copies have the same problem as photos - they're still not the official document with the special paper and security features the IRS requires. The IRS specifically states they need the official forms attached to paper returns. The processing time for paper returns is significantly longer than e-filing. Currently, the IRS is taking approximately 6-8 weeks to process paper returns that don't have issues. However, with potential staffing shortages and backlogs, it could take 3-4 months or even longer. This is why e-filing is strongly recommended whenever possible.

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Abby Marshall

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Random tip for anyone filing by mail internationally: make sure you convert any foreign currency amounts correctly and document your conversion rate! I got audited last year because I was working in Japan and messed up some conversions. Also make sure you sign EVERYWHERE they ask for signatures - I had my return delayed 3 months because I missed one signature line.

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Heather Tyson

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Thanks for the tip! When you sent your return from overseas, did you use regular mail or something with tracking? I'm worried about my tax documents getting lost in transit from Thailand.

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Abby Marshall

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I definitely used registered mail with tracking through Thailand Post (or whatever your local equivalent is). It cost more but gave me peace of mind. Take photos of EVERYTHING before you send it - all completed forms, W-2s, etc. I even took a photo of the sealed envelope with the address visible. Trust me, you don't want to be in a situation where your return gets lost and you have zero proof of what you sent. The tracking number saved me because my return took almost 6 weeks to arrive at the IRS from overseas, and I was getting nervous. Also, make a calendar reminder to check that your return was received - the IRS "Where's My Refund" tool will show when they receive a paper return.

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Sadie Benitez

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Has anyone used those mail forwarding services where they'll scan your mail and email it to you? I'm wondering if that might be a solution for getting the actual W-2s digitally without waiting for international mail. My job has me traveling constantly so physical mail is always a problem for tax season.

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Drew Hathaway

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I use a service called Earth Class Mail for exactly this! They receive my mail, scan it, and I can view it online. For important documents like W-2s, I can have them forward the originals to wherever I am. It's been super helpful for tax documents when I'm overseas. Just make sure to set it up before tax season starts.

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Charity Cohan

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I'm a tax preparer and wanted to chime in with some official guidance on your situation. Unfortunately, printed photos of W-2s are NOT acceptable for paper filing - the IRS specifically requires the original documents with their security features intact. Your best options are: 1. Have your parents mail the original W-2s to you in Thailand via express/registered mail 2. Complete Form 4852 (Substitute W-2) for ALL your W-2 forms using the photo information 3. Have your parents mail your completed return with original W-2s attached directly from the US If you go the Form 4852 route, attach a statement explaining why you're using substitute forms and include any documentation you have (like the photos). The IRS will likely contact your employers to verify the information. For international mailing, NEVER use regular mail for tax returns. Use Thailand Post's EMS or registered mail with full tracking. Make copies of everything before sending and get a receipt with tracking number. One important note: if you're a US citizen working abroad, make sure you're also considering the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (Form 2555) if applicable - it could significantly reduce your tax liability.

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This is really helpful professional advice! I had no idea about the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion - that could save me a lot of money. Quick question though: if I go the Form 4852 route for all my W-2s, will that automatically trigger an audit or just delay my processing? And do you know if there's a limit to how many Form 4852s I can file in one return? I have 3 different W-2s from my time working in the US before I moved to Thailand.

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