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Filing US tax return as a US citizen student with foreign parents - dependent or independent status?

Title: Filing US tax return as a US citizen student with foreign parents - dependent or independent status? 1 I'm a US citizen attending university full-time and trying to figure out my tax filing status. My situation is a bit complicated because my parents are both French citizens who live and work in Paris. They've never lived in the US, don't have US citizenship, and file all their taxes in France. They do claim me as a dependent on their French tax returns. Since my parents don't file US tax returns at all, nobody is claiming me as a dependent on a US tax return. I'm confused about whether I should file as dependent or independent for my US taxes. I receive some financial support from my parents for tuition and living expenses, but they're not US taxpayers. I've been looking at the IRS website trying to figure this out, but the rules seem to assume your parents are filing US tax returns. Does anyone know what the correct filing status is for someone in my situation? I don't want to make a mistake that could cause problems later.

8 This is actually a pretty straightforward situation. For US tax purposes, you would file as independent (not as a dependent of another taxpayer). The key factor is that your parents don't file US tax returns - they can't claim you as a dependent on a return that doesn't exist. The IRS only recognizes dependents who are claimed on US tax returns. Your parents claiming you on French taxes has no bearing on your US tax filing status. Since no one is claiming you as a dependent on a US tax return, you would file your US taxes as independent. This means you can claim your own personal exemption and potentially qualify for certain credits like the American Opportunity Credit for education expenses if you meet the other requirements.

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12 Thanks for the response. I'm still a bit confused though - doesn't the IRS have rules about being claimed as a dependent based on financial support rather than whether someone actually claims you? My parents do provide over half my support, so even though they don't file US taxes, I thought that might still make me technically a "dependent" by IRS definitions?

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8 You're asking a good question about the distinction between qualifying as a dependent versus being claimed as one. You're right that there are support tests for dependency status, but for someone to claim you as their dependent, they must file a US tax return where they list you as their dependent. Since your parents don't file US returns, they can't claim you as a dependent for US tax purposes regardless of how much they support you. The fact that they claim you on French returns doesn't affect your US filing status. For your US return, you'll file as independent and can claim your own exemption.

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9 In case it's relevant to your situation - if your parents are sending you money from France to support you, be aware there might be FBAR filing requirements if the total in foreign accounts you have signature authority over exceeds $10,000 at any point during the year. This is separate from your income tax return but still important.

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1 I hadn't even thought about FBAR requirements! My parents did transfer about €12,000 to my US bank account for tuition this year, but I don't have any foreign bank accounts myself. Would I still need to file an FBAR in this case? Or does that only apply if I actually have accounts outside the US?

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9 You only need to file an FBAR if you have foreign financial accounts that exceed $10,000 in aggregate at any time during the year. If your parents simply transferred money to your US bank account, that doesn't trigger FBAR requirements for you. FBAR would only be necessary if you yourself have accounts outside the US, like if you had a French bank account that your parents deposit money into. Transfers from foreign sources to your US accounts don't create FBAR obligations, though they might have other reporting requirements depending on the specifics of your situation.

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2 As someone with Chinese parents living abroad, one other thing to consider: check if you qualify for education credits like the American Opportunity Credit. Filing as independent means you can claim these credits yourself rather than your parents claiming them (which they couldn't do anyway if they don't file US taxes).

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10 Is there an income requirement to claim the American Opportunity Credit? I'm a student with minimal income besides what my parents send me. Would I still qualify?

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Yes, you can still qualify for the American Opportunity Credit even with minimal income! The credit is actually partially refundable, which means you can get money back even if you don't owe any taxes. The income limits are quite generous - for 2023, the credit phases out between $80,000-$90,000 for single filers, so as a student you're almost certainly well below that threshold. You'll need Form 1098-T from your school showing qualified education expenses, and you can claim up to $2,500 per year for the first four years of post-secondary education. Since you're filing as independent, you claim it directly on your return rather than your parents claiming it.

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I'm in a very similar situation with my parents living in the UK - they're British citizens who don't file US taxes but support me financially while I'm in college here. Based on what everyone's saying, it sounds like I should also file as independent since they can't claim me on a US return that doesn't exist. One thing I'd add is to make sure you keep good records of any money transfers from your parents. I learned this the hard way when I got a letter from the IRS asking about a large deposit in my account. Even though it was just my parents sending tuition money, having documentation showing it was a gift/support payment (not income) was really important. A simple letter from your parents explaining the transfers can save you headaches later. Also, definitely look into those education credits that were mentioned - as an independent filer, you can claim them yourself and they can be substantial!

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