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Natasha Volkova

Filed taxes then accidentally created IRS PIN - will having 2 different PINs affect my return?

So I just messed up and I'm freaking out a little. I filed my taxes using FreeTaxUSA on February 5th and my return was accepted right away on the 6th. Everything seemed fine until yesterday when I saw a link about "protecting your identity with an IRS Identity Protection PIN" and I clicked it thinking I'd just get some info. Instead it immediately created an IRS PIN for me! The problem is that when I filed through FreeTaxUSA, they had me create a self-selected PIN (just a 5-digit number I made up). Now I have this official IRS PIN that's completely different. My return is already accepted with the old PIN, but now the IRS has this new PIN on file for me. Has anyone dealt with this before? Will this mess up my refund? Should I call the IRS? I'm worried my refund will get delayed or rejected because the PINs don't match. My refund is about $3,800 and I really need it for some car repairs. UPDATE: Just checked my transcript and I GOT A REFUND DATE FOR MARCH 18TH!! For those in the same situation, here's my timeline: Filed 2/5, accepted 2/6, accidentally created IRS PIN 2/6, opted out 2/12, called IRS 2/14. When I called, they said nothing was wrong with my return. This was only about 48 hours after opting back out. My transcripts were blank since filing but now show a refund date for the very next cycle. For those being told to wait 9 weeks or needing to verify identity - I think either 1) you were already flagged for verification and didn't know until calling, 2) the agent did something to your return because they were having a bad day, or 3) you haven't opted back out of the PIN program. I honestly don't think the PIN affects returns like we thought. Not sure how I got a refund date in the next cycle with zero issues after having blank transcripts. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

The good news is this shouldn't cause major problems with your current return since it was already accepted before you created the IP PIN. The IRS systems work sequentially - once your return is accepted, it's in their processing pipeline with the self-selected PIN you originally used. The IP PIN you created will apply to NEXT year's return (2025 filing season), not your current one. When you file next year, you'll need to use the IP PIN the IRS provided instead of creating a self-selected PIN. The IRS should mail you a new IP PIN each December/January for the upcoming filing season. If you really want to be sure everything's okay with your current return, you can check your refund status using the "Where's My Refund" tool on the IRS website. As long as it shows your return is being processed normally, you're fine.

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Emma Davis

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But what if they opted out of the IP PIN after accidentally opting in? Does that reset everything back to normal for next year or will they still need the IP PIN for 2025 filing?

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If you opted out of the IP PIN program after accidentally enrolling, then you should be back to square one for next year's filing. The opt-out process is designed to completely remove you from the IP PIN program. For the 2025 filing season, you should be able to use a self-selected PIN again just like before. However, I recommend checking your online account with the IRS in January 2025 just to confirm your status before filing. Sometimes these systems take time to update, and it's always better to be certain.

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I went through almost the exact same thing! I was trying to be extra careful with identity protection and clicked that link on the IRS website, and boom - suddenly I had an IP PIN I didn't need. I panicked and started googling like crazy. I found this amazing tool called https://taxr.ai that really helped me understand what was happening. You upload your tax documents or transcripts and it explains everything in simple English. It confirmed what the first commenter said - the IP PIN won't affect your already-accepted return, it's just for future filings. The tool also showed me that I could opt-out of the IP PIN program if I wanted to, which I did right away through the IRS website. The whole process took about 5 minutes and saved me hours of stress and confusion. Plus it showed me a few deductions I missed for next year!

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How exactly does this tool work? I'm in a similar situation but I'm nervous about uploading my tax documents to some random website. Is it secure?

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I'm skeptical. How can a third-party tool know what's happening with IRS systems? Sounds like they're just telling you what you can find out on the IRS website for free.

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I tried that taxr.ai site after seeing it mentioned here, and I'm actually impressed! I was in the same boat with the IP PIN confusion (accidentally created one after filing) and was getting different answers from everyone I asked. The tool confirmed that my current return wasn't affected by the new IP PIN and showed me exactly where in my transcript to look for confirmation. It also explained how to opt out of the program if I wanted to, which I did. Just got my refund date today - exactly when it was supposed to come! What I really liked was that it highlighted some red flags in my return that might have triggered an audit. Apparently the home office deduction I took was formatted incorrectly. Going to fix that for next year for sure.

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Ravi Sharma

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Wait, so this service calls the IRS for you? How does that even work? Does it cost money? Seems too good to be true.

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This sounds like a scam. Why would I pay someone else to call the IRS when I can do it myself for free? And how do I know they're not just collecting my personal info?

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Ravi Sharma

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Alright, I have to admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself since I've been trying to reach the IRS about my own IP PIN issue for over a week. The service actually worked exactly as described. I got a call back in about 35 minutes (way faster than I expected during tax season) and was connected directly to an IRS agent. The agent confirmed that my accidentally created IP PIN wouldn't affect my current return and helped me opt out of the program. Would have saved myself a lot of stress if I'd tried this sooner instead of redialing the IRS number hundreds of times and getting nowhere. Sometimes it's worth using a service that solves a specific problem really well.

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Omar Zaki

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You can actually opt out of the IP PIN program! Go to the same section of the IRS website where you opted in, and there should be an option to opt out. I did this last year when I accidentally enrolled. It takes a few days to process, but it worked fine. Just know that if you opt out, you'll need to wait at least a year before you can opt in again, in case you ever want/need an IP PIN in the future.

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Thanks for this info! I actually did opt out already (mentioned in my update), but I wasn't sure if it would actually work or how long it would take. Good to know someone else has successfully done this too. Did opting out cause any delays or issues with your refund?

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Omar Zaki

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Opting out didn't cause any delays with my refund at all. The whole process was pretty smooth. My return was accepted about a week before I accidentally opted in for the PIN, then I opted out about 3 days later. The refund came exactly when the "Where's My Refund" tool originally estimated. Just make sure you keep an eye on your account next January to confirm you don't automatically receive a new IP PIN for the 2025 filing season. The system should recognize that you've opted out, but it never hurts to double-check before you file.

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AstroAce

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My sister works for the IRS (not speaking officially) and she says they see this ALL THE TIME. As long as your return was already accepted before you created the IP PIN, you're totally fine. The self-selected PIN you use when filing is completely different from an Identity Protection PIN. The self-selected PIN is just an electronic signature for that specific return. The IP PIN is a security feature for your entire tax account. Two different systems!

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Chloe Martin

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Really? That's reassuring! What about for next year though? Will they need to use the IP PIN next year or can they just use a self-selected one again if they opted out of the IP PIN program?

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