FTC carryover reporting from previous years when no foreign income this year
Hey tax friends, I've got a situation I can't seem to find a clear answer for in the IRS publications. Here's my scenario: - For tax years 2021, 2022, and 2023, I had foreign income and paid foreign taxes - I claimed Foreign Tax Credit (FTC) each year using Form 1116 and have carryovers from all three years - I've been tracking my carryovers using Form 1116 Schedule B - For this tax year (2024), I have absolutely no foreign income or foreign taxes to report My question is: Do I still need to file Form 1116 Schedule B this year just to preserve my carryovers from 2021-2023? Or since I don't have any foreign income or taxes this year, can I skip filing Form 1116 entirely without losing my carryovers? I've combed through the IRS instructions but couldn't find anything addressing this specific scenario. Seems like this would be common for people who have carryovers but then have a year without foreign income. Any insights would be much appreciated!
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Morgan Washington
You've asked a great question that a lot of people struggle with when they have FTC carryovers but no current year foreign income. To preserve your Foreign Tax Credit carryovers, you should still file Form 1116 Schedule B for tax year 2024, even though you don't have any current year foreign income or taxes. Schedule B is specifically designed to track your carryover amounts from previous years, and filing it maintains the record of these credits in the IRS system. While the instructions don't explicitly address this scenario, the purpose of Schedule B is to track your carryforward amounts regardless of whether you have current year foreign income. Without filing it, you risk the IRS not recognizing these carryovers when you try to use them in future years.
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Kaylee Cook
•Thanks for your explanation! Quick follow-up - do I need to complete the entire Form 1116 or just Schedule B? And if I'm using tax software like TurboTax, will it automatically handle this situation or do I need to force it somehow?
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Morgan Washington
•You only need to complete Form 1116 Schedule B to track your carryovers. You don't need to complete the main Form 1116 since you don't have any foreign income or taxes to report for the current year. Most tax software doesn't handle this situation perfectly. Programs like TurboTax might not automatically prompt you to file just Schedule B without the main form. You may need to manually indicate you have carryover credits and navigate to Schedule B. Some users find they need to enter a very small amount of foreign income (like $1) to force the software to generate the form, then adjust it to show zero current year tax but preserve the carryovers on Schedule B. Always review the final form before filing to ensure it correctly shows your carryover amounts.
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Adrian Hughes
•How does it handle the software limitation the expert mentioned? I'm using H&R Block and it doesn't seem to let me file just Schedule B without main Form 1116 data.
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Marcus Patterson
Just to add another perspective - I went through this exact scenario last year. I had FTC carryovers from 2020-2022, but no foreign income in 2023. I consulted with a CPA who specializes in expat taxes, and they advised me to file Form 1116 Schedule B to preserve the carryovers. They said technically the carryovers still exist whether you file the form or not, but filing Schedule B creates a clear paper trail that makes it much easier if you're ever audited or need to claim those carryovers in future years.
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Lydia Bailey
•Did your CPA mention anything about how this affects the carryover expiration? Don't FTC carryovers expire after 10 years? Does the clock keep ticking even in years you don't have foreign income?
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Marcus Patterson
•Yes, the 10-year expiration clock continues to tick regardless of whether you have foreign income in a particular year. That's actually one of the main reasons my CPA recommended filing Schedule B every year - it creates a clear tracking record for when each carryover will expire. The carryovers maintain their original expiration dates. So my 2020 carryovers will still expire after 2030, my 2021 after 2031, and so on, regardless of whether I had foreign income in the intervening years. Filing Schedule B each year makes it much easier to track these different expiration dates, especially if you have carryovers from multiple years.
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Mateo Warren
Has anyone successfully e-filed with just Schedule B in this situation? My tax software (FreeTaxUSA) won't let me e-file Form 1116 Schedule B unless I also complete the main Form 1116 with current year information, which I don't have.
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Sofia Price
•I had the same issue with TaxAct! I ended up entering a very small amount ($1) of foreign income just to get the form to generate, then made sure my Schedule B showed the correct carryover amounts. Not ideal but it seemed to work.
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Mateo Warren
•Thanks for the workaround! I'll try that approach. I was worried about entering fake foreign income data, but $1 seems minimal enough that it won't meaningfully impact anything. I just want to make sure my carryovers from previous years are properly documented.
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Alice Coleman
Another option nobody mentioned - you could also file Form 1116 Schedule B as a PDF attachment to your return. This works if your tax software won't allow you to complete just Schedule B without the main form. Just download the PDF form from the IRS website, fill it out manually, and then attach it to your e-filed return as a PDF supplement. Most tax software allows you to include supplemental forms this way. This might be cleaner than entering artificial foreign income data just to trigger the form. The key is making sure you have documentation of your carryover amounts for future use!
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Jade O'Malley
I went through this exact situation two years ago and can confirm that filing Form 1116 Schedule B is absolutely necessary to preserve your FTC carryovers, even when you have no foreign income for the current year. What really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track all my carryovers by year and their expiration dates. Since FTC carryovers expire after 10 years, it's crucial to maintain clear records of when each carryover originated so you know when they'll expire. For the tax software issue that several people mentioned - I found that most software programs have a "forms mode" or "manual entry" option that lets you add forms without going through the interview process. In TurboTax, you can search for "Form 1116" and add it directly, then just complete Schedule B without filling out the main form sections. One important note: make sure your Schedule B carryover amounts match what you reported in previous years. The IRS computers will flag any discrepancies, so consistency in your carryover tracking is key. I learned this the hard way when I had to amend a return because my carryover amounts didn't match my previous year's filing.
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Danielle Mays
•This is incredibly helpful! I've been stressed about this exact situation - I have carryovers from 2021-2023 but no foreign income this year. Your spreadsheet idea is brilliant for tracking the 10-year expiration dates. Quick question about the "forms mode" in TurboTax - when you add Form 1116 directly, does it automatically populate your carryover amounts from last year's return, or do you have to manually enter all the carryover data again? I'm worried about making errors when transferring the numbers from my previous year's Schedule B. Also, did you have any issues with the IRS accepting an e-filed return that had Form 1116 Schedule B but no current year foreign income reported on the main form?
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