Employer taxes being deducted from my gross salary - is this normal?
I recently started my first "real" job after college and I'm confused about my paycheck situation. I don't have much background in financial stuff (parents never taught me this) and I can't seem to find a clear answer online or on the IRS website. I was going through my year-end documents and noticed something weird - my gross earnings are significantly less than the salary I negotiated in my contract. For example purposes, let's say my employment agreement states my salary is $125,000 annually. However, according to my year-end earnings statement, my total gross earnings for 2023 only show up as $115,375. My employee taxes (federal, state, etc.) have been withheld based on that $115,375 figure. What's strange is that my employer taxes (their portion of FICA, etc.) seem to align almost exactly with the missing $9,625 from my gross earnings. Is it normal for employer taxes to be deducted from the employee's base salary? I thought these were supposed to be additional costs that the employer pays on top of your agreed salary, not something taken out of my pay. If this isn't the standard practice, what options do I have to address this with my employer? Are there any potential legal issues with what they're doing? Any advice would be appreciated!
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Daniel Rivera
This definitely isn't normal! Employer taxes should NOT be deducted from your gross earnings. Your gross salary should be exactly what you negotiated, and then your employee taxes (income tax, your portion of FICA, etc.) get deducted from that to give you your net pay. The employer portion of taxes (their half of FICA, FUTA, etc.) should be paid BY THE EMPLOYER on top of your salary. They are entirely separate from your earnings and should have no impact on your gross pay. For a $125,000 salary, you should see exactly $125,000 as your gross earnings (before any of YOUR tax deductions). The employer's tax obligations are their responsibility and have nothing to do with your gross pay. I'd recommend gathering your offer letter/employment agreement, your final paystub of 2023, and your W-2, then having a conversation with your HR or payroll department. There might be a legitimate explanation (like benefits deductions), but if they're actually deducting their tax obligations from your pay, that's potentially illegal.
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Sophie Footman
•Thanks for the clarification! I've got a follow-up question: could this be related to pre-tax deductions like health insurance or 401k contributions? Or would those still show up differently on a paystub compared to employer taxes?
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Daniel Rivera
•Pre-tax deductions like health insurance and 401k contributions would definitely impact your gross vs. net pay, but they should be clearly itemized on your paystub as separate line items. They wouldn't show up as "employer taxes" - they'd be listed as specific benefit deductions. These deductions reduce your taxable income (the amount subject to income tax), but they don't actually reduce your gross earnings for reporting purposes. Your W-2 Box 1 will show a lower amount than your gross salary if you have pre-tax deductions, but your gross earnings on your final paystub should still match your contracted salary.
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Connor Rupert
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Molly Hansen
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Brady Clean
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Brady Clean
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Kelsey Chin
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Norah Quay
Not a tax professional but work in payroll. Check if your salary agreement included language like "total compensation" rather than "base salary." Some sketchy companies will advertise total compensation packages (including the value of benefits) rather than actual salary. Still doesn't explain employer taxes being deducted though. Another possibility - are you sure the missing amount isn't actually for benefits? Health insurance, retirement contributions, FSA/HSA contributions, etc. would reduce your gross pay but would be your elected deductions, not employer taxes.
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Owen Devar
•I double-checked my employment agreement and it specifically states "annual base salary" of $125,000, not total compensation. And I've looked carefully at my paystubs - the missing amount perfectly matches what's labeled as "Employer FICA" and "Employer Medicare" contributions. My benefit deductions are listed separately and I understand those coming out.
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Norah Quay
•That's definitely incorrect then. Employer FICA and Medicare should be paid by the employer ON TOP OF your base salary, not deducted from it. The fact that they're literally labeling it as "Employer" contributions while taking it from your pay is pretty damning evidence of either deliberate wage theft or a fundamental misunderstanding of payroll on their part. Document everything, take screenshots of your paystubs showing these deductions, and prepare for a meeting with HR/payroll. If they don't resolve it immediately, you may need to file a wage claim with your state's labor department.
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Leo McDonald
Is this your first job out of college? Just wondering if maybe you're misreading your paystub. Most paystubs will SHOW both employer and employee portions of FICA/Medicare for informational purposes, but only the employee portion actually comes out of your check. The employer portion is just shown so you can see the total cost of employment.
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Jessica Nolan
•This is a really good point. My company does this too - they show their contributions on my paystub but those amounts aren't actually being deducted from my pay. It's just showing what they're contributing on my behalf to be transparent about total compensation.
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Luca Esposito
This is a great point to double-check! @Owen, can you clarify - are you looking at your actual gross earnings on your W-2 or year-end statement, or are you looking at what's displayed on your paystub? Many paystubs will show employer tax contributions in an "informational" section that doesn't actually reduce your take-home pay. The key is to look at your W-2 Box 1 (wages subject to federal income tax) and compare that to your contracted salary amount. If your W-2 shows less than your contracted $125,000 (minus only legitimate pre-tax deductions you elected), then you definitely have a problem. But if the employer taxes are just being displayed on your paystub for transparency without actually being deducted, your gross earnings should still match your contract. Can you check your actual W-2 and let us know what Box 1 shows?
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Paolo Rizzo
•This is exactly the right question to ask! I made a similar mistake when I first started working - I was looking at all the numbers on my paystub and getting confused about what was actually being deducted versus what was just informational. @Owen, definitely check your W-2 Box 1 first. If that matches your $125,000 salary (minus any pre-tax deductions you chose like health insurance or 401k), then the employer tax amounts you're seeing are probably just displayed for informational purposes and aren't actually reducing your pay. But if your W-2 Box 1 is significantly less than expected, then you've got a real issue that needs to be addressed with your employer immediately.
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