ETF Investment Tax Implications: Moving Gains from Germany to Egypt
I've been investing in some ETFs through Trading 212 while living here in Germany for the past 3 years. Recently, I'm thinking about transferring some of my investment gains back to my bank account in Egypt (that's where I'm originally from). I'm really confused about the tax situation here - if I move these profits to my Egyptian account, do I still need to pay German taxes on them? Or does transferring the money somehow change the tax obligations? I've tried reading through some German tax websites but honestly got lost in all the technical terms. Has anyone here dealt with transferring investment profits internationally? Any insights on how Germany treats ETF gains when they're moved to accounts in other countries? I'm trying to avoid any accidental tax evasion issues but also don't want to pay taxes twice if that's not required.
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Dylan Fisher
The location of your bank account doesn't change your tax obligations. As a German resident, you're taxed on your worldwide income, including investment gains, regardless of where you eventually transfer the money. For ETFs in Germany, you're generally subject to a 25% capital gains tax plus solidarity surcharge when you sell shares at a profit. This is typically withheld automatically if you're using a German broker, but with Trading 212 (which is UK-based), you likely need to declare these gains yourself on your annual tax return. The transfer to Egypt is a separate transaction that happens after the taxable event (selling your ETF shares). Germany doesn't care where you send your money after taxation - they only care that you properly report and pay taxes on the gains when realized.
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Edwards Hugo
•Thanks for the info, super helpful! Quick follow-up question - does it matter if I'm only a temporary resident in Germany (here on a work visa)? And would there be any different rules if the ETFs are accumulating vs. distributing?
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Dylan Fisher
•Your residency status absolutely matters. If you're a tax resident in Germany (generally living there for more than 183 days in a calendar year), then the standard rules apply regardless of visa type. You're subject to taxation on worldwide income, including all ETF gains. For accumulating vs. distributing ETFs, there is indeed a difference. With distributing ETFs, you pay tax on dividends as they're distributed. With accumulating ETFs, Germany applies a "deemed distribution" concept where you're taxed annually on the theoretical dividend amount (Vorabpauschale), even though it's reinvested rather than paid out. This is a fairly unique German tax approach that often surprises investors.
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Gianna Scott
I went through something similar last year with international investments while living in Berlin. After lots of research and confusion, I discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) which was a game-changer for understanding my specific situation. You upload your investment docs and it breaks down exactly what needs to be reported where - saved me so much hassle with the German tax authorities. The tool is especially great for expats because it knows the rules for cross-border situations and can analyze your specific ETFs to determine the correct German tax treatment. It even creates the proper documentation you need for your Steuererklärung.
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Alfredo Lugo
•Does it actually help with foreign tax credits too? I'm a US citizen in Germany and always struggle with figuring out how to avoid double taxation between the two countries, especially with investments.
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Sydney Torres
•I'm skeptical - how does it handle Vorabpauschale for accumulating ETFs? That's always been the most confusing part for me with German taxation. And can it deal with brokers outside Germany like Trading 212?
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Gianna Scott
•It absolutely handles foreign tax credits - that's actually one of its strongest features. It will show you exactly how to claim foreign taxes paid on your German return and vice versa, which is crucial for avoiding double taxation. Regarding Vorabpauschale for accumulating ETFs, this is where the tool really shines. It automatically calculates the deemed distribution amounts based on the specific ETF structures and the relevant base interest rate for the tax year. It even handles the complexity of partial tax exemptions based on equity ratios. And yes, it works with statements from non-German brokers like Trading 212 - you just upload the documents and it extracts all the relevant transaction data.
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Sydney Torres
Just wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after our conversation here. I was definitely skeptical at first (as you might remember from my comment), but I decided to give it a try with my accumulating ETFs from both Scalable Capital and Trading 212. I'm honestly impressed! The system correctly identified all my funds, calculated the Vorabpauschale amounts properly, and even applied the correct partial exemption rates based on equity ratios. What really surprised me was how it handled my specific situation with moving money between Germany and the UK. It clearly showed which transactions were taxable events and which were just transfers. The documentation it created for my tax return was accepted without any questions from the Finanzamt. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with cross-border investment tax issues!
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Kaitlyn Jenkins
If you're having trouble getting straight answers from the German tax authorities (like most of us!), I recommend using Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) to actually get through to a human at the Finanzamt. I spent weeks trying to get clarification on international investment taxation, but could never get past the automated phone systems. Claimyr somehow got me connected with an actual tax officer in about 20 minutes who could answer my specific questions about ETF taxation for non-permanent residents. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The service basically navigates the phone systems for you and calls you back when a human is on the line. Saved me countless hours of frustration.
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Caleb Bell
•Wait, how does this actually work? Do they have some special connection to the tax offices or something? I've literally never been able to get through to the Finanzamt on the phone.
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Danielle Campbell
•Sounds like BS to me. Nobody gets through to German bureaucracy that easily. I've been trying for months. I doubt any service could magically solve that problem.
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Kaitlyn Jenkins
•They don't have special connections - they use an automated system that navigates through phone trees and waits on hold for you. Basically, their technology dials repeatedly using optimized patterns until it gets through, then when a human answers, it connects you immediately. Think of it like having a super-patient assistant who just sits there redialing and waiting on hold so you don't have to. I was totally surprised when it actually worked. The system alerts you with a text when it's about to connect you, then calls your phone with the tax officer already on the line. The service works for all kinds of government agencies, not just the Finanzamt. It's really just about getting past the hold times and busy signals that make these offices so impossible to reach.
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Danielle Campbell
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I tried Claimyr after posting my skeptical comment here and... it actually worked. After 3 months of never getting through to the Frankfurt Finanzamt about my ETF taxation situation, I got connected to a real person in about 35 minutes. The tax officer clarified that as a resident (even temporary), I'm taxed on worldwide income regardless of where I transfer the money afterward. She also explained the forms I needed for declaring my Trading 212 investments since they don't automatically report to German tax authorities. I'm honestly shocked this service worked - German bureaucracy is notoriously impenetrable. So for the OP's question: yes, you'll still owe German taxes even if you transfer to Egypt, and yes, you should definitely speak directly with the tax office about your specific situation.
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Rhett Bowman
Don't forget about the tax treaty between Germany and Egypt! This could potentially impact how you're taxed. While Germany will tax your worldwide income as a resident, the treaty might prevent double taxation if Egypt also tries to tax that income. The key is determining your tax residency status. If you're a tax resident in Germany (usually living there >183 days/year), then Germany has primary taxation rights on your investment income. The money transfer to Egypt doesn't change this fact.
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Kelsey Hawkins
•Really appreciate this point about the tax treaty! Do you know if I need to file anything special with Egyptian authorities to claim the benefits of this treaty? I've been filing taxes in Germany but haven't done anything on the Egyptian side since moving to Germany.
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Rhett Bowman
•You'll typically need to provide documentation to the Egyptian tax authorities showing that you've already paid tax in Germany on this income. This usually involves getting a tax residency certificate from the German Finanzamt and submitting it along with your Egyptian tax return (if you're required to file one). The exact procedure depends on your Egyptian tax status. If you're not considered a tax resident in Egypt (typically if you spend less than 183 days there), you might only be taxed on Egyptian-source income in Egypt, not your worldwide income. But tax laws change frequently, so consulting with a tax professional familiar with both German and Egyptian tax systems would be wise before making significant transfers.
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Abigail Patel
I think everyone's missing an important point here - Trading 212 might not issue the proper tax documents needed for German tax filing. I use them too and had to manually calculate my taxable gains last year, which was a huge pain. Unlike German brokers who handle the tax withholding automatically, Trading 212 puts all responsibility on you to correctly report everything. Make sure you're keeping detailed records of all purchases, sales, and any distributions!
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Daniel White
•This is so true! I learned this the hard way last year. I downloaded monthly statements and had to create my own spreadsheet tracking every transaction. German tax authorities expect extremely detailed reporting.
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Aaliyah Jackson
As someone who's dealt with similar cross-border investment taxation issues, I'd strongly recommend getting professional tax advice before making any large transfers. The interaction between German tax law and Egyptian tax obligations can be quite complex, especially when you factor in the bilateral tax treaty. One thing to keep in mind is timing - if you're planning to leave Germany in the near future, there might be exit tax implications on unrealized gains depending on the size of your holdings. Also, make sure you understand Egypt's foreign exchange regulations regarding large incoming transfers, as some countries have reporting requirements for substantial foreign investment proceeds. The German tax obligation is clear (you owe tax regardless of where you send the money), but the Egyptian side might have its own complexities that could affect your overall tax burden. A tax advisor familiar with German-Egyptian tax matters would be worth the consultation fee to avoid any costly mistakes.
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
•This is excellent advice about getting professional help! I'm curious about the exit tax implications you mentioned - is there a specific threshold where this kicks in? I'm on a 3-year work contract and will likely be heading back to Egypt when it expires, so this could definitely affect my planning. Also, do you know if there are any advantages to realizing gains while still a German resident versus waiting until after I've established tax residency back in Egypt?
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