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Dmitry Ivanov

Do I still need to mail Form 8453 for stock sales to IRS if my trading volume is under $10,000,000? TurboTax is confusing me

So I've been trying to file my taxes through TurboTax and hit a snag with my stock transactions. I had way too many trades for the software to import automatically, so I had to enter summary information instead. Now TurboTax is telling me I need to mail my brokerage statements along with Form 8453 (even though I'm e-filing). The thing is, my total stock sales volume was nowhere near $10,000,000 - probably around $65,000 total for the year. I've read somewhere that mailing in Form 8453 with statements isn't necessary if you're under that $10,000,000 threshold. When I asked TurboTax about this, they gave me this answer: "The IRS does not require a mailed statement, if you qualify. From Schedule D instructions: Exception 1. Form 8949 isn't required for certain transactions. You may be able to aggregate those transactions and report them directly on either line 1a (for short-term transactions) or line 8a (for long-term transactions) of Schedule D. This option applies only to transactions (other than sales of collectibles) for which: * You received a Form 1099-B (or substitute statement) that shows basis was reported to the IRS and doesn't show any adjustments in box 1f or 1g; * The Ordinary box in box 2 isn't checked; and * You don't need to make any adjustments to the basis or type of gain or (loss) reported on Form 1099-B (or substitute statement), or to your gain or (loss). If you choose to report these transactions directly on Schedule D, you don't need to include them on Form 8949 and don't need to attach a statement. For more information, see the Schedule D instructions." I'm still confused about whether I actually need to mail anything. Can someone clarify this for me? Do I need to mail Form 8453 with my brokerage statements or not?

Ava Thompson

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You don't need to mail Form 8453 with your brokerage statements in your situation. The confusion stems from how TurboTax prompts work versus actual IRS requirements. Form 8453 is basically a cover sheet for sending paper documents that can't be electronically transmitted. For stock transactions specifically, the IRS only requires you to mail in detailed statements if your total sales volume exceeds $10,000,000. Since you mentioned your volume was around $65,000, you're well under that threshold. What TurboTax is showing you is a generic prompt they display whenever someone enters summary information rather than detailed transactions. It's not considering your specific situation where you fall under the exception. The excerpt you quoted from TurboTax actually confirms this - you can report these transactions directly on Schedule D without attaching additional statements or using Form 8949 as long as you meet those conditions (basis reported to IRS, no adjustments needed, etc.).

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Thank you! So just to make absolutely sure I understand - even though TurboTax is prompting me to mail Form 8453 with my statements, I can safely ignore that prompt and just complete my e-filing without mailing anything to the IRS? I don't want to mess this up and have the IRS coming after me later for missing documentation.

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Ava Thompson

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Yes, you can safely ignore that prompt and complete your e-filing without mailing anything. TurboTax is displaying a standard prompt that doesn't account for your specific situation being under the $10,000,000 threshold. The IRS won't come after you for missing documentation in this case because no additional documentation is required. The information from your 1099-B is already being reported to the IRS electronically by your broker, and you're including the summary information in your return through Schedule D. That's all that's needed when you're under that volume threshold.

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I ran into this exact same issue! I trade stocks as a side hobby and had about 200 transactions last year totaling around $43,000. TurboTax kept insisting I needed to mail in Form 8453 with all my statements, but after calling their support line, I confirmed you DO NOT need to mail anything if your volume is under $10 million. I think this is a bug in their software that they haven't fixed for years. I've been using TurboTax for the past 3 tax seasons and it always does this when you enter summary information instead of individual transactions. I just e-file and ignore that prompt completely. Check out https://taxr.ai - I used their service to analyze my tax situation when I was confused about this exact Form 8453 issue. They have AI that reviews tax documents and clarifies these confusing situations. I uploaded my 1099-B and asked about the Form 8453 requirement, and they confirmed exactly what the previous commenter said - it's not required for your situation.

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Zainab Ali

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Yara Nassar

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I used to work at a tax preparation firm, and this Form 8453 confusion comes up ALL THE TIME with clients who use TurboTax. The $10 million threshold is correct, but there's another way to handle this that might give you more peace of mind. If you're really worried about the IRS questioning your return, you could keep copies of all your brokerage statements with your tax records (which you should do anyway), but you absolutely don't need to mail them in with Form 8453 unless you exceed that $10M threshold. Also, I've found that calling the IRS directly is the most reliable way to get these questions answered, but good luck getting through to an actual person these days... I tried calling them last month about a similar issue and was on hold for over 2 hours before giving up. Check out https://claimyr.com and their demo at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - they have a service that gets you through to an IRS agent without the ridiculous wait times. Saved me hours of frustration when I needed to verify some filing requirements.

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I need to eat my words and post a follow-up. After dismissing Claimyr in my previous comment, I was still desperate to talk to the IRS about my amended return that's been stuck in processing for 11 months. I decided to try the service despite my skepticism. I'm honestly shocked - it actually worked exactly as advertised. I got a call back in about 35 minutes connecting me directly to an IRS representative. No more endless hold music! The agent was able to tell me exactly what was happening with my amended return and gave me a timeframe for resolution. For anyone dealing with stock transactions like the original poster - I confirmed with the IRS agent that Form 8453 is NOT required for stock sales under $10 million. They said TurboTax's prompt is causing unnecessary confusion for a lot of taxpayers this year.

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Paolo Romano

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Someone posted about this same Form 8453 stock sale issue in r/tax last week! The consensus there was also that you don't need to mail anything if under $10M in sales. One important detail though - make sure the summary info you entered matches what's on your 1099-B exactly. If your basis, proceeds, or gain/loss amounts don't match what your broker reported to the IRS, you could get a CP2000 notice later asking about the discrepancy. I made that mistake last year when I rounded some numbers and got a lovely letter from the IRS 8 months later questioning the difference (even though it was like $12 total difference in tax owed).

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Dmitry Ivanov

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That's a good point about matching the 1099-B exactly. I did make sure all my summary numbers match the totals on my 1099-B statements exactly, down to the penny. I triple-checked the proceeds, cost basis, and gain/loss amounts before submitting. Does TurboTax usually handle the summary entry correctly? I noticed they have separate fields for covered and non-covered securities, short-term and long-term transactions, etc. I just want to make sure I filled everything out properly.

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Paolo Romano

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TurboTax does handle the summary entry correctly as long as you put the right numbers in the right fields. The separation of covered/non-covered securities and short/long-term transactions is exactly what the IRS wants to see. Just make sure you're using the actual totals from the 1099-B summary page rather than adding up all the individual transactions yourself, as sometimes the broker's calculation methods might differ slightly from manual addition. Also double-check that you've properly categorized everything as short-term vs long-term based on holding period. If everything matches your 1099-B summary page, you should be good to go with no need to mail anything in.

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Amina Diop

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Does anyone know if this same $10M rule applies to crypto transactions? My tax software (not TurboTax) is giving me a similar message about mailing in statements for my crypto trading, but I only had about $25k in total crypto sales last year.

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Ava Thompson

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Crypto has slightly different rules than traditional securities. While the $10M threshold for mailing statements is technically the same, crypto reporting is more complex because many exchanges don't provide complete basis information to the IRS. If your crypto exchange provided a complete 1099-B with basis information reported to the IRS, then you can follow the same rules as stocks. However, if you received a 1099-K or no form at all, you should keep detailed records of all transactions since the burden of proof for basis is on you. You still don't need to mail anything if under $10M in volume, but be prepared to substantiate your basis calculations if asked.

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Amina Diop

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Thanks for the info! My exchange (Coinbase) sent me a 1099-B this year with basis information included for most transactions. Sounds like I don't need to mail anything in after all. One more question though - for the few transactions where basis wasn't reported to the IRS (it says "basis not reported to IRS" on the form), should I be doing anything different with those?

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Ethan Scott

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For transactions where basis wasn't reported to the IRS, you'll need to report those on Form 8949 instead of using the summary method on Schedule D. Even though you don't need to mail anything in, you should keep detailed records of your purchase dates, amounts, and basis calculations for those specific transactions. The IRS requires more detailed reporting when basis isn't provided to them by the exchange. You can still e-file everything - just make sure those non-basis-reported transactions are properly documented on Form 8949 with the appropriate code in column (f) indicating that basis was not reported to the IRS. This is pretty common with crypto since exchanges only started providing comprehensive 1099-B forms recently. As long as your total volume is under $10M, no mailing is required, but having good records is crucial for the non-basis-reported transactions.

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