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Ava Martinez

Do I need to submit a Form 673 for my new job overseas?

I just started working for a company based outside the US (I moved abroad about a month ago). The company operates globally including in the US, but their headquarters and my employment contract are in this foreign country. HR sent me tax withholding paperwork including a W-4 and mentioned I might need to fill out Form 673 "if applicable." I'm confused about whether this form applies to my situation since I don't live in the US anymore and the company isn't US-based. Do I need to complete Form 673 for foreign income exclusion withholding? Has anyone dealt with this form when working overseas? Thanks for any advice!

Miguel Ortiz

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The Form 673 (Statement for Claiming Exemption from Withholding on Foreign Earned Income) is specifically for US citizens or residents working abroad who expect to qualify for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE). If you're going to be living and working outside the US for at least 330 days in a 12-month period (Physical Presence Test) OR you establish bona fide residence in another country (Bona Fide Residence Test), you can use Form 673 to tell your employer not to withhold US federal income tax on the income that would qualify for the FEIE. Since you just moved abroad and your employer asked for this form, it sounds like they're set up to handle US tax withholding despite being a foreign company. This is actually helpful for you as it gives you more control over your tax situation.

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Zainab Omar

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Thanks for the explanation! So if I'm planning to stay at this job in this country for several years, should I go ahead and fill out the 673? Do I need to wait until I've been out of the US for a specific period before submitting it?

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Miguel Ortiz

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You can submit Form 673 to your employer now if you reasonably expect to qualify for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion for the tax year. You don't need to wait until you've already met the requirements. If you're planning to stay abroad for several years, you'll likely qualify under either the Physical Presence Test (330 days outside the US in a 12-month period) or the Bona Fide Residence Test (established residence in a foreign country for an entire tax year). Just be aware that if you end up not qualifying for the FEIE, you'll be responsible for the taxes that weren't withheld, possibly with penalties and interest.

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Connor Murphy

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Yara Sayegh

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Did you actually have to prove anything to your employer when submitting the 673? I'm moving to Germany next month and wondering if I need documentation beyond just filling out the form.

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NebulaNova

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I'm a bit skeptical about online tax tools. How did it actually help with determining your specific situation? Did it just give generic advice or was it personalized?

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Connor Murphy

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You don't need to provide additional proof to your employer when submitting Form 673 - they just keep it for their records. Your signature on the form is your declaration that you expect to meet the requirements. When you file your actual tax return, that's when you'll need documentation about your foreign residence. The tool wasn't just giving generic advice - it asked specific questions about my move date, employment situation, and plans for returning to the US. It analyzed my responses against the actual tax code requirements and gave me personalized guidance based on my specific circumstances. Much more helpful than the generic articles I found online that left me more confused.

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NebulaNova

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Oliver Schulz

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One thing to consider with Form 673 - if you submit it but then end up returning to the US earlier than planned and don't meet the qualifications for Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, you could end up with a big tax bill. I'd recommend putting some money aside just in case, especially in your first year abroad when qualification isn't certain.

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Ava Martinez

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. If I submit the 673 and my company stops withholding, but then I don't qualify, I could have a tax problem. Do you know if there's a minimum amount of time I should be planning to stay abroad before it makes sense to use this form?

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Oliver Schulz

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For the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion to apply, you need to meet either the Physical Presence Test (330 days outside the US in a 12-month period) or the Bona Fide Residence Test (established residence for a full tax year). So if you're planning to stay for less than a year, it could be risky to submit Form 673. The safest approach would be to let them withhold taxes for the first year, then file for a refund if you qualify for the FEIE when you do your tax return. If you're confident you'll be staying for multiple years, the form makes more sense to use immediately.

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Make sure you're also aware of FBAR filing requirements if you open foreign bank accounts while abroad! Those forms have nothing to do with taxes you owe but have huge penalties if you fail to file.

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Absolutely this! I got hit with a penalty because I didn't realize my foreign pension account counted for FBAR reporting. The requirement kicks in when your aggregate foreign accounts exceed $10,000 at any point during the year.

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Emma Wilson

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Form 673 can be really helpful in your situation, but I'd recommend being cautious about timing. Since you just moved abroad a month ago, you're still early in the process of establishing foreign residence. One approach that worked for me was to submit the 673 but also set up quarterly estimated tax payments as a safety net. That way, if something changes and you don't end up qualifying for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, you're not hit with a massive tax bill plus penalties. Also, make sure your employer's payroll system can actually handle the 673 properly - some foreign companies that process US withholding aren't familiar with this form and might need guidance on how to implement it correctly. You might want to follow up with their HR/payroll team to confirm they know what to do with it once you submit it.

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