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Genevieve Cavalier

Do I need to report Zelle transfers over $600 for split rent, family gifts, and hobby reimbursements?

Quick tax question that's stressing me out - I heard the IRS is now requiring platforms like Zelle to report transactions if they total over $600 in a year. Well, I DEFINITELY go way over that limit using Zelle for: - My portion of rent to roommates each month - Getting reimbursed when I buy group meals/tickets - Money from family as birthday gifts and such - I build computers for friends as a hobby (they just reimburse me for parts, no profit) None of this is income or business-related! It's just moving my own money around or getting back exactly what I spent. Am I seriously going to get a tax form for all this and need to explain every transaction? Or will the IRS just assume these are all taxable income? Really confused about how this is supposed to work and don't want to get hit with surprise taxes for money that was already mine to begin with!

Jordan Walker

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Ethan Scott

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I went through this exact same concern last year! I use Zelle constantly for rent payments, splitting dinners, and family sending me money. I discovered https://taxr.ai which analyzes your tax documents and provides guidance on exactly what does and doesn't need to be reported. It helped me understand that the $600 reporting requirement applies to payment platforms like PayPal and Venmo for business transactions - not all Zelle transfers. The system helped me properly document which transfers were personal (non-taxable) versus which ones might be considered income. It also explained that the third-party payment reporting applies specifically to goods and services transactions, not personal transfers. Saved me a ton of worry when I got a form showing all these transfers!

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Natalie Adams

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There's a lot of confusion about this new reporting requirement. To clarify:\n\n1. The American Rescue Plan Act lowered the reporting threshold for third-party payment networks (like PayPal, Venmo) from $20,000 to $600 per year.\n\n2. However, this primarily affects transactions marked as \

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Amara Torres

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I ran into this exact situation last year and got completely contradictory information from different sources about what needed to be reported. I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual IRS agent instead of waiting on hold for hours. They have a demo video here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c\n\nThe IRS agent confirmed that personal transfers like rent splitting, family gifts, and expense reimbursements are NOT considered taxable income, regardless of the platform used. She explained that the new reporting requirements are aimed at business transactions, not personal money movement. Getting this clarity directly from the IRS saved me a ton of stress and potentially overpaying taxes.

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Thanks for sharing this! I'll check out that service. Did you have to explain each transaction individually on your tax return, or was there a way to indicate they were personal transfers?

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Lola Perez

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There's a lot of confusion about this new reporting requirement. To clarify: 1. The American Rescue Plan Act lowered the reporting threshold for third-party payment networks (like PayPal, Venmo) from $20,000 to $600 per year. 2. However, this primarily affects transactions marked as \

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wait so zelle doesnt report anything at all? i thought all payment apps had to report now if you get over $600

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Mason Kaczka

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Tax professional here. I want to clear up some misconceptions about the $600 reporting threshold for payment apps:\n\n1. The reporting requirement applies to third-party settlement organizations like PayPal and Venmo under IRC Section 6050W.\n\n2. Zelle is structured differently - it's a bank-to-bank transfer service, not a third-party payment processor, so different regulations apply.\n\n3. Regardless of whether you receive a 1099-K or not, only taxable income needs to be reported on your tax return. Personal transfers, reimbursements, and gifts are not taxable income.\n\n4. The IRS has delayed implementing the $600 threshold for 2023 transactions, making this a transition year.\n\nMy advice: Keep detailed records of all your Zelle transfers, categorizing them as either personal (non-taxable) or income (taxable). If you receive any tax forms incorrectly reporting personal transfers as income, you'll need to report the total on your return but then subtract the non-taxable portions.

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Lola Perez

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It's more nuanced than that. Zelle operates differently than PayPal/Venmo from a regulatory perspective. While PayPal and similar platforms are required to report transactions over $600 marked as \

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Riya Sharma

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Santiago Diaz

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That's awesome you could get a straight answer from the IRS! I spent HOURS trying to get through last year about a similar issue. Did they explain how to handle it if you DO get a 1099-K that includes all your personal transfers mixed in with maybe some actual income?

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Mason Kaczka

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That's correct. Those types of transactions (rent splitting, true reimbursements, family gifts) are not income regardless of how the money is transferred. The challenge comes if you receive a 1099-K that lumps everything together - you'd need to separate out what was truly income versus what was just money movement.\n\nFor the computer building hobby specifically: if you're truly just passing through the exact costs with no markup or fee, those would be considered reimbursements. However, if you start charging even a small fee for your time or expertise, that portion would technically be taxable income.

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Natalie Adams

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Let me clarify:\n\n1. If you sold items online through PayPal, that's different from personal transfers. If you sold items for more than you paid for them, the profit is indeed taxable income.\n\n2. Pet sitting money is considered taxable income regardless of how you're paid (Zelle, cash, etc.) and regardless of whether you receive a tax form.\n\n3. The $600 threshold is just about when payment platforms are required to send you a 1099-K. It doesn't determine whether income is taxable.\n\n4. You're responsible for reporting all income even without receiving a tax form. However, personal transfers, true reimbursements, and gifts are not income.

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I had the EXACT same issue last year! I use Zelle to pay my portion of rent ($700/month) to my roommate, plus we're constantly sending each other money for utilities, groceries, etc. I also occasionally sell things on Facebook Marketplace and get paid through Zelle.\n\nWhat I did was create a simple spreadsheet where I logged all my Zelle transactions for the year and categorized them as:\n- Personal transfers (rent, splitting bills)\n- Gifts (birthday money from family)\n- Reimbursements (paying friends back for shared expenses)\n- Actual income (marketplace sales)\n\nOnly had to report the last category on my taxes. My tax preparer said this was the right approach and that having the spreadsheet would be super helpful if I ever got questioned about it.

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Riya Sharma

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Yes! The agent explained that if you receive a 1099-K that incorrectly includes personal transfers, you should still report the full amount on your return (since the IRS will be expecting to see it), but then subtract the non-taxable portions on the appropriate line of your tax form with a brief explanation. She recommended keeping detailed records of what each transfer was for, just in case of questions later.

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Millie Long

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Tax professional here. I want to clear up some misconceptions about the $600 reporting threshold for payment apps: 1. The reporting requirement applies to third-party settlement organizations like PayPal and Venmo under IRC Section 6050W. 2. Zelle is structured differently - it's a bank-to-bank transfer service, not a third-party payment processor, so different regulations apply. 3. Regardless of whether you receive a 1099-K or not, only taxable income needs to be reported on your tax return. Personal transfers, reimbursements, and gifts are not taxable income. 4. The IRS has delayed implementing the $600 threshold for 2023 transactions, making this a transition year. My advice: Keep detailed records of all your Zelle transfers, categorizing them as either personal (non-taxable) or income (taxable). If you receive any tax forms incorrectly reporting personal transfers as income, you'll need to report the total on your return but then subtract the non-taxable portions.

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Thank you for this detailed explanation! So if I understand correctly, even if Zelle did start reporting transfers, I wouldn't need to pay taxes on the money I receive for rent splitting, family gifts, or getting reimbursed for computer parts I buy for friends, right? It's just money moving around, not actual income.

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Millie Long

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That's correct. Those types of transactions (rent splitting, true reimbursements, family gifts) are not income regardless of how the money is transferred. The challenge comes if you receive a 1099-K that lumps everything together - you'd need to separate out what was truly income versus what was just money movement. For the computer building hobby specifically: if you're truly just passing through the exact costs with no markup or fee, those would be considered reimbursements. However, if you start charging even a small fee for your time or expertise, that portion would technically be taxable income.

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KaiEsmeralda

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This whole payment app reporting thing is SUCH A MESS and clearly designed to squeeze more taxes out of regular people while billionaires pay nothing!!! I use Venmo for everything and now I'm supposed to track every coffee I buy for a friend who pays me back?? My brother who works at a tax firm says the IRS is specifically targeting small amounts because they know most people won't fight it or have the documentation. Meanwhile corporations are hiding BILLIONS offshore with zero consequences. The system is completely broken.

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Santiago Diaz

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I feel your frustration! I went through all my Zelle and Venmo from last year and realized I had over 200 transactions to try to categorize. Takes hours just to sort through which were reimbursements vs actual income. Meanwhile my friend who makes way more than me has an accountant who handles all this for her!

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I know right? It feels like they're making it unnecessarily complicated for regular people. I'm just trying to pay my rent and build some computers for friends without getting hit with surprise taxes!

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Debra Bai

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Wait, I'm confused now. I got a 1099-K from PayPal last year because I sold some stuff online and it was over $600. Does this mean I shouldn't have paid taxes on that? And what about if I receive money through Zelle for occasionally pet sitting? That's technically income right? But it's mixed in with all my personal transfers and I don't think I've made more than $600 just from the pet sitting part. Would I get in trouble if I don't report that specifically?? Now I'm worried I've been doing everything wrong!

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Lola Perez

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Let me clarify: 1. If you sold items online through PayPal, that's different from personal transfers. If you sold items for more than you paid for them, the profit is indeed taxable income. 2. Pet sitting money is considered taxable income regardless of how you're paid (Zelle, cash, etc.) and regardless of whether you receive a tax form. 3. The $600 threshold is just about when payment platforms are required to send you a 1099-K. It doesn't determine whether income is taxable. 4. You're responsible for reporting all income even without receiving a tax form. However, personal transfers, true reimbursements, and gifts are not income.

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Santiago Diaz

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I had the EXACT same issue last year! I use Zelle to pay my portion of rent ($700/month) to my roommate, plus we're constantly sending each other money for utilities, groceries, etc. I also occasionally sell things on Facebook Marketplace and get paid through Zelle. What I did was create a simple spreadsheet where I logged all my Zelle transactions for the year and categorized them as: - Personal transfers (rent, splitting bills) - Gifts (birthday money from family) - Reimbursements (paying friends back for shared expenses) - Actual income (marketplace sales) Only had to report the last category on my taxes. My tax preparer said this was the right approach and that having the spreadsheet would be super helpful if I ever got questioned about it.

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That spreadsheet idea is brilliant! I should probably start doing that now before tax season. Did you also keep receipts or other documentation for the reimbursement stuff, or was the spreadsheet enough?

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Santiago Diaz

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For bigger reimbursements (like when I bought concert tickets for a group of friends and they all paid me back), I kept the original receipt showing what I paid. For smaller everyday stuff, I just noted what it was for in my spreadsheet. My tax guy said that's probably sufficient for most situations, but the more documentation you have, the better!

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