Do I need to fill out W-4R for 401k withdrawal? What happens if I don't?

The W-4R form is actually really important for your 401(k) withdrawal. It's not something you send to the IRS - it goes to your 401(k) administrator to tell them how much federal income tax you want withheld from your distribution. If you don't submit the form, the administrator will automatically withhold 20% for federal taxes (which is what you mentioned). But here's the thing - depending on your tax bracket, 20% might not be enough, and you could end up owing more when you file. Or it might be too much if you're in a lower bracket. Keep in mind that early withdrawals also come with a 10% penalty on top of regular income tax unless you qualify for an exception. This penalty isn't withheld automatically - you'll pay it when you file.

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Based on personal experience, make sure to consider your TOTAL income for the year when deciding on your withholding percentage. I did a 401k withdrawal last year and just let them withhold the default 20%, but I forgot that it would push me into a higher tax bracket when combined with my regular income. Ended up owing over $2000 at tax time plus an underpayment penalty. Not fun!! Also don't forget about state taxes! The W-4R only covers federal withholding. Depending on your state, you might need a separate form for state tax withholding.

Quick question - has anyone done a partial withdrawal instead of taking everything out? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if that might be better tax-wise than one lump sum.

Just wanted to add something important that I learned the hard way - if you're planning to do this withdrawal in December like I did, be extra careful about your withholding calculation. The lump sum withdrawal pushed me way up in tax brackets for that year, and the 20% default withholding wasn't nearly enough. What really caught me off guard was that the 401k withdrawal counts as ordinary income, not capital gains, so it gets taxed at your regular income tax rates. When you add a big withdrawal to your regular salary, it can bump you into the next bracket pretty quickly. I ended up having to make an estimated tax payment in January to avoid penalties. My advice: if you're not sure about the math, consider having them withhold 25-30% instead of the default 20%, especially if this withdrawal will significantly increase your total income for the year. It's better to get a refund than owe a big chunk plus penalties!