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Eduardo Silva

Do I need to file Form 5471 as a dual status non-resident alien?

I'm completely stuck trying to figure out if I need to submit Form 5471 with my tax return this year. My situation is a bit complex - I moved to the US mid-year on an L1 visa and became a resident alien for tax purposes in August. Before that, I was a non-resident alien for the first part of the year (dual status). The complication is that I own 15% of a foreign corporation based in my home country. I've been digging through IRS publications trying to understand if Form 5471 applies to dual status aliens, specifically during the non-resident portion of the tax year. Does anyone have experience with this specific situation? The instructions for Form 5471 don't clearly address dual status aliens, and I'm worried about potential penalties for not filing if I'm required to. Any guidance would be really appreciated!

The 5471 requirement depends on your specific situation as a dual status taxpayer. Since you became a resident alien in August, you're generally subject to US tax reporting on your worldwide income from that point forward. For Form 5471 specifically, you need to determine if you're a "US person" who meets the ownership threshold for filing. The 15% ownership you mentioned might trigger Category 3 or 4 filing requirements, but this only applies during your resident period. During your non-resident period, you typically wouldn't need to file Form 5471 for that portion of the year. I'd recommend looking at Form 8833 too, as you might need to make treaty-based positions regarding your dual status year. The transition between non-resident and resident status creates some complex reporting situations.

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Thanks for the info. I'm in a similar situation but I own 20% of a foreign corp. Does the filing date matter at all? Like if the foreign corporation has a fiscal year that ends during my resident period vs. non-resident period?

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The fiscal year of the foreign corporation does matter. If the foreign corporation's tax year ends during your resident period, you would generally need to report your ownership on Form 5471 for that tax year of the corporation. If the foreign corporation's tax year ends during your non-resident period, you typically wouldn't have a Form 5471 filing obligation for that particular tax year of the corporation. However, if you become a resident later and the corporation has another tax year ending in your resident period, you would need to file for that later tax year.

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Just want to add that dual status reporting can get really tricky with foreign corporations. Make sure you also check if your foreign corporation is a PFIC (Passive Foreign Investment Company) as that adds additional filing requirements with Form 8621, even for relatively small ownership percentages. Also, don't forget about FBAR requirements which have a completely different threshold than Form 5471. You might not need 5471 but still need to file FinCEN Form 114 if your foreign accounts exceed $10,000 at any point during the year.

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Thanks for mentioning PFIC and FBAR! I hadn't even considered the PFIC angle. My foreign corporation is actually involved in manufacturing, so I think it's an active business rather than passive, but I'll double-check the passive income percentages to be sure. And good reminder about the FBAR requirements - those definitely apply to me as I had over $10,000 in foreign accounts. Is the FBAR filing threshold the same regardless of residency status?

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For PFICs, you're right that manufacturing is typically considered an active business, but be careful if your company also earns interest, dividends, or has rental properties as those could push you over the passive income thresholds. Regarding FBAR, the filing requirement applies to "U.S. persons" which includes resident aliens. During your non-resident period, you technically wouldn't have an FBAR requirement, but once you become a resident alien, the requirement kicks in. If you had over $10,000 in foreign accounts at any time while you were a resident alien, you need to file the FBAR for that period.

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Make sure you check for any possible exceptions to Form 5471! I spent hours preparing this complex form only to discover later that I qualified for an exception. If your foreign corporation is in a country with a tax treaty with the US, some simplified reporting might be available. Also if you own exactly 15% (not more), you might not trigger category 5 reporting which is usually the most burdensome.

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Do any exceptions apply specifically to the dual status year though? I'm trying to figure out if there's a minimum time you need to be a resident for 5471 to apply. Like if you're only a resident for 2 months of the year, seems excessive to require full reporting.

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