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Amina Bah

Do I need to file Form 1065 for LLC partnership with no income in 2025?

My husband and I set up an LLC as partners back in late 2023. We had plans to start a small consulting business, but honestly life got in the way (new baby, job changes) and we literally did zero business with it in 2024. No income came in, we didn't spend anything on the business, basically the LLC just existed on paper. Now tax season is approaching and I'm wondering if we still need to go through the hassle of filing Form 1065 for the partnership? The IRS website mentions something about partnerships needing to file but it's not super clear about situations where there was absolutely no activity. We don't want to waste time on unnecessary paperwork, but also don't want to get in trouble for not filing something required. Has anyone dealt with this "dormant LLC" situation before? Do we need to file the partnership return even though we had zero income and zero expenses?

Yes, you do need to file Form 1065 even with zero income or expenses. The IRS requires partnerships to file an information return regardless of whether there was any business activity during the year. Many people think no income means no filing, but partnerships have to report even when "nothing happened." You'll basically file a return showing zeros in most places. This lets the IRS know your partnership still exists but didn't have activity. It's actually pretty simple to do when there are no transactions to report. If you don't file, you could face failure-to-file penalties of $210 per partner per month (up to 12 months), so it's definitely worth completing the form even when it feels unnecessary.

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Amina Bah

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Thanks for the info! That penalty sounds scary. Do you know if there's a way to close down the LLC officially so we don't have to keep filing empty returns every year? We honestly might not use it for a few more years.

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Yes, there are two main options. You can formally dissolve the LLC by filing articles of dissolution with your state (procedures vary by state). This terminates the business entity completely. For tax purposes, you'll file a final Form 1065 checking the "final return" box. Alternatively, if you think you might use the LLC in the future, some states allow you to put your LLC in "inactive" status, which may reduce state filing requirements and fees. However, you'd still need to file the federal Form 1065 as long as the partnership technically exists.

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Does it actually tell you how to fill out the specific lines on the 1065? My LLC had almost no activity and I'm stuck on how to report that properly. Like do I just put zeros everywhere or are there specific sections I need to complete?

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I'm skeptical about these AI tax tools. How does it know the specific rules for my state? LLCs are treated differently depending on where you live, right? Seems like it might miss important details.

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It actually does walk you through the specific form lines that need to be completed. For a zero-activity partnership, it shows you which sections can simply have zeros and which ones still need specific information (like partner details and ownership percentages). It made filling out the form much less intimidating. For state-specific rules, it does include state tax guidance. When you set up your profile, you indicate your state of operation, and it adjusts its analysis accordingly. It covers the different LLC treatment across states, especially for things like annual reports and franchise taxes that might still apply even without income.

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Another option worth considering - if your LLC is just you and your wife, you could potentially elect to be treated as a "disregarded entity" rather than a partnership for federal tax purposes. This would eliminate the need to file Form 1065 completely. You'd need to file Form 8832 to change your tax classification. If approved, your LLC would be treated like a sole proprietorship (reported on Schedule C of your personal return) instead of a partnership. Might be worth looking into if you want to avoid the partnership filing requirements going forward.

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Amina Bah

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Wait, I thought husband-wife LLCs automatically had to be partnerships? Can we really change it to a disregarded entity? That would be so much simpler!

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No, husband-wife LLCs don't automatically have to be partnerships. If you're in a community property state (Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington, or Wisconsin), you can actually treat it as a disregarded entity by default without filing anything special. If you're not in a community property state, you'd need to file Form 8832 to elect to change the classification. It's definitely simpler for tax purposes, though there may be other business or legal reasons you might want to maintain partnership status. Also, once you make this election, there are restrictions on changing back within 60 months.

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Has anyone here actually gotten in trouble for NOT filing a zero-activity 1065? I'm in a similar situation (LLC partnership formed in 2024 but no business conducted yet) and wondering how serious the risk really is? $210 per month per partner is theoretically a big penalty, but do they actually enforce that for small businesses that aren't making any money?

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Yes, they absolutely do enforce it. My brother and his wife had an LLC with no activity in 2022 and just didn't file anything. They got hit with over $4,000 in penalties last year. The IRS doesn't care if you made money or not - they just want the paperwork filed on time.

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Wow, that's rough. Thanks for sharing that cautionary tale. Guess I'll be filing that blank 1065 after all. Not worth the risk.

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I was in almost the exact same situation last year - formed an LLC with my spouse in 2023, had zero activity in 2024, and was dreading the paperwork. I ended up filing the Form 1065 anyway after reading about the penalties, and honestly it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Most of the form was just zeros or "N/A" entries. The trickiest part was making sure I had the right partner information and ownership percentages filled out correctly in Schedule K-1, but even that was straightforward since we're 50/50 partners. The whole thing took me maybe 2 hours using tax software. One thing I learned: even though we had no income, I still had to report our initial capital contributions when we formed the LLC (even if it was just $100 each to open the business bank account). That showed up on Schedule L as our beginning and ending balance sheet. Definitely file it - the peace of mind is worth way more than the couple hours of paperwork, especially knowing people are getting hit with thousands in penalties for not filing.

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