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Amina Bah

Do I need to file Form 1065 for LLC partnership with no income in 2025?

My husband and I set up an LLC as partners back in late 2023. We had plans to start a small consulting business, but honestly life got in the way (new baby, job changes) and we literally did zero business with it in 2024. No income came in, we didn't spend anything on the business, basically the LLC just existed on paper. Now tax season is approaching and I'm wondering if we still need to go through the hassle of filing Form 1065 for the partnership? The IRS website mentions something about partnerships needing to file but it's not super clear about situations where there was absolutely no activity. We don't want to waste time on unnecessary paperwork, but also don't want to get in trouble for not filing something required. Has anyone dealt with this "dormant LLC" situation before? Do we need to file the partnership return even though we had zero income and zero expenses?

Oliver Becker

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Yes, you do need to file Form 1065 even with zero income or expenses. The IRS requires partnerships to file an information return regardless of whether there was any business activity during the year. Many people think no income means no filing, but partnerships have to report even when "nothing happened." You'll basically file a return showing zeros in most places. This lets the IRS know your partnership still exists but didn't have activity. It's actually pretty simple to do when there are no transactions to report. If you don't file, you could face failure-to-file penalties of $210 per partner per month (up to 12 months), so it's definitely worth completing the form even when it feels unnecessary.

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Amina Bah

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Thanks for the info! That penalty sounds scary. Do you know if there's a way to close down the LLC officially so we don't have to keep filing empty returns every year? We honestly might not use it for a few more years.

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Oliver Becker

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Yes, there are two main options. You can formally dissolve the LLC by filing articles of dissolution with your state (procedures vary by state). This terminates the business entity completely. For tax purposes, you'll file a final Form 1065 checking the "final return" box. Alternatively, if you think you might use the LLC in the future, some states allow you to put your LLC in "inactive" status, which may reduce state filing requirements and fees. However, you'd still need to file the federal Form 1065 as long as the partnership technically exists.

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CosmicCowboy

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Does it actually tell you how to fill out the specific lines on the 1065? My LLC had almost no activity and I'm stuck on how to report that properly. Like do I just put zeros everywhere or are there specific sections I need to complete?

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Javier Cruz

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I'm skeptical about these AI tax tools. How does it know the specific rules for my state? LLCs are treated differently depending on where you live, right? Seems like it might miss important details.

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CosmicCowboy

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It actually does walk you through the specific form lines that need to be completed. For a zero-activity partnership, it shows you which sections can simply have zeros and which ones still need specific information (like partner details and ownership percentages). It made filling out the form much less intimidating. For state-specific rules, it does include state tax guidance. When you set up your profile, you indicate your state of operation, and it adjusts its analysis accordingly. It covers the different LLC treatment across states, especially for things like annual reports and franchise taxes that might still apply even without income.

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Javier Cruz

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Emma Thompson

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Malik Jackson

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Emma Thompson

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StarSurfer

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Another option worth considering - if your LLC is just you and your wife, you could potentially elect to be treated as a "disregarded entity" rather than a partnership for federal tax purposes. This would eliminate the need to file Form 1065 completely. You'd need to file Form 8832 to change your tax classification. If approved, your LLC would be treated like a sole proprietorship (reported on Schedule C of your personal return) instead of a partnership. Might be worth looking into if you want to avoid the partnership filing requirements going forward.

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Amina Bah

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Wait, I thought husband-wife LLCs automatically had to be partnerships? Can we really change it to a disregarded entity? That would be so much simpler!

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StarSurfer

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No, husband-wife LLCs don't automatically have to be partnerships. If you're in a community property state (Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington, or Wisconsin), you can actually treat it as a disregarded entity by default without filing anything special. If you're not in a community property state, you'd need to file Form 8832 to elect to change the classification. It's definitely simpler for tax purposes, though there may be other business or legal reasons you might want to maintain partnership status. Also, once you make this election, there are restrictions on changing back within 60 months.

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Ravi Malhotra

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Has anyone here actually gotten in trouble for NOT filing a zero-activity 1065? I'm in a similar situation (LLC partnership formed in 2024 but no business conducted yet) and wondering how serious the risk really is? $210 per month per partner is theoretically a big penalty, but do they actually enforce that for small businesses that aren't making any money?

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Yes, they absolutely do enforce it. My brother and his wife had an LLC with no activity in 2022 and just didn't file anything. They got hit with over $4,000 in penalties last year. The IRS doesn't care if you made money or not - they just want the paperwork filed on time.

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Ravi Malhotra

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Wow, that's rough. Thanks for sharing that cautionary tale. Guess I'll be filing that blank 1065 after all. Not worth the risk.

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Melody Miles

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I was in almost the exact same situation last year - formed an LLC with my spouse in 2023, had zero activity in 2024, and was dreading the paperwork. I ended up filing the Form 1065 anyway after reading about the penalties, and honestly it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Most of the form was just zeros or "N/A" entries. The trickiest part was making sure I had the right partner information and ownership percentages filled out correctly in Schedule K-1, but even that was straightforward since we're 50/50 partners. The whole thing took me maybe 2 hours using tax software. One thing I learned: even though we had no income, I still had to report our initial capital contributions when we formed the LLC (even if it was just $100 each to open the business bank account). That showed up on Schedule L as our beginning and ending balance sheet. Definitely file it - the peace of mind is worth way more than the couple hours of paperwork, especially knowing people are getting hit with thousands in penalties for not filing.

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This is really helpful, thank you! The detail about reporting initial capital contributions is something I hadn't thought about. We did put in a small amount to open the business bank account, so I'll make sure to include that on Schedule L. It's reassuring to hear that someone else went through the exact same situation and that it only took a couple hours. I was imagining it would be way more complicated than that. Definitely going to file rather than risk those penalties - your experience makes it seem much less daunting!

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Amina Diop

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I went through this exact situation two years ago! Had an LLC partnership that sat dormant for the entire tax year - no income, no expenses, nothing. I was really hoping I could skip the filing, but after doing some research (and getting scared by the penalty amounts), I decided to file Form 1065 anyway. The good news is that it's actually pretty straightforward when you have zero activity. Most lines on the form will just be zeros, and the Schedule K-1s for you and your husband will mostly be blank or zero as well. The main things you'll need to fill out are basic partnership info, partner details, and the balance sheet showing any initial contributions you made when setting up the LLC. I used FreeTaxUSA for partnerships and it walked me through everything step by step. Took maybe 90 minutes total, and most of that was just double-checking that I was entering zeros in the right places. Way better than risking those failure-to-file penalties - I've heard they really do enforce them even for small partnerships with no activity. One tip: make sure you keep good records of when your LLC was formed and any initial money you put in, because you'll need those dates and amounts for the return even if nothing else happened during the year.

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This is super helpful! I'm actually in the same boat right now - LLC partnership with my business partner, zero activity in 2024, and I've been putting off dealing with the tax filing because it seemed overwhelming. Your point about FreeTaxUSA walking you through it step by step is reassuring. I was worried I'd mess something up and create more problems than just filing late. The tip about keeping records of initial contributions is great too - we put in $500 each when we opened the business account, so I'll make sure to have those bank statements handy when I sit down to file. Really appreciate you sharing your experience, it makes this feel much more manageable!

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Sofia Gomez

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I'm dealing with this exact situation right now! My business partner and I formed an LLC in late 2023 but had absolutely zero business activity in 2024 - no income, no expenses, nothing. We've been procrastinating on the tax filing because we weren't sure if we needed to do anything. After reading through all these responses, it's clear we need to file Form 1065 regardless of having no activity. The penalty stories are definitely scary enough to motivate me to get this done! It sounds like it's actually not as complicated as I was expecting when there's zero activity to report. One question though - for those who have filed zero-activity returns, do you need to include any kind of explanation or note about why there was no business activity? Or do you just file the form with zeros and that's sufficient for the IRS to understand the situation? Also, has anyone here used TurboTax Business for this type of filing, or is FreeTaxUSA really the better option for simple partnership returns?

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You don't need to include any explanation or note about why there was no business activity - just filing the form with zeros is sufficient. The IRS understands that partnerships sometimes have dormant periods, and they just want to see that you're complying with the filing requirement. Regarding tax software, I've used both TurboTax Business and FreeTaxUSA for partnership returns. For a simple zero-activity return, FreeTaxUSA is definitely the more cost-effective choice - it's significantly cheaper than TurboTax Business and handles basic partnership returns just fine. TurboTax Business has more bells and whistles, but you're paying a premium for features you won't need when you're just filing zeros. One thing to keep in mind: make sure you file by the partnership return deadline (March 15th for calendar year partnerships, or you can request an extension until September 15th). Even though you have no activity to report, the filing deadline still applies and those penalties start accruing from the day after the due date.

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Summer Green

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I just went through this exact situation last month! My wife and I had a dormant LLC partnership for all of 2024 - literally zero activity, no income, no expenses, just existed on paper while we dealt with other life priorities. After reading horror stories about the penalties (which are real - the IRS doesn't mess around with partnership filing requirements), I bit the bullet and filed Form 1065. It was honestly much simpler than I expected when there's no activity to report. Most lines were just zeros, and the main things I needed were our basic partnership info, each partner's details, and our initial capital contributions from when we set up the LLC. I used FreeTaxUSA and it took maybe 2 hours total, including double-checking everything. The software walked me through which sections actually needed attention versus which ones could just be zeros. The peace of mind was absolutely worth the small time investment, especially knowing that failure-to-file penalties can add up to thousands of dollars even when you made zero income. One tip that saved me some confusion: make sure you have your EIN handy and any documentation of initial money you put into the business when you formed it (even if it was just $50 to open a bank account). That needs to go on the balance sheet even if nothing else happened during the year. Don't risk the penalties - just file the return with zeros. It's way easier than you think it will be!

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Oliver Cheng

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Thanks for sharing your experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who just went through this exact situation. I've been putting off dealing with our dormant LLC tax filing for weeks because I was intimidated by the whole process, but your breakdown makes it sound much more manageable than I was imagining. The tip about having the EIN and initial contribution documentation ready is super helpful - we put in $100 each when we opened our business bank account, so I'll make sure to dig up those bank statements before I start. It's good to know that FreeTaxUSA walks you through the process step by step, especially for figuring out which sections need zeros versus which ones can be left blank. I'm definitely convinced now that filing is the way to go rather than risking those penalties. Two hours of work to avoid potentially thousands in penalties is a no-brainer! Really appreciate you taking the time to share the details of your experience.

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QuantumQuasar

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I just want to echo what everyone else is saying - you absolutely need to file Form 1065 even with zero activity. I learned this the hard way when I procrastinated on filing for my dormant LLC partnership in 2023 and got hit with penalties. The IRS considers partnerships to be "pass-through entities" that must file information returns regardless of income level. Think of Form 1065 as more of a reporting requirement than a tax return - you're basically telling the IRS "hey, we exist but had no activity this year." For your situation with zero income and zero expenses, the form will be mostly zeros but you'll still need to complete the basic partnership information, partner details (you and your husband), ownership percentages, and Schedule L (balance sheet) showing any initial capital you contributed when forming the LLC. The good news is that many tax software programs have gotten really good at handling these "dormant partnership" scenarios. They'll guide you through exactly which fields need zeros versus which can be left blank. Budget about 1-2 hours for the whole process if you use software - it's really not as intimidating as it seems when there's no actual business activity to report. Don't gamble with those penalties - they add up fast and the IRS doesn't care whether you made money or not. Just file the return and get it off your plate!

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GalaxyGlider

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually a newcomer to this community but found myself in a very similar situation. My spouse and I formed an LLC partnership last year but haven't had any business activity yet due to some unexpected family circumstances. I've been stressing about the tax filing requirements and wasn't sure if we needed to do anything since we literally had zero income and expenses. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring - it sounds like filing Form 1065 with mostly zeros isn't nearly as complicated as I was imagining. The point about this being more of a "reporting requirement" than an actual tax return really helps me understand why it's still necessary even with no activity. And hearing that multiple people have successfully used tax software to walk through the process gives me confidence that I can handle this myself rather than paying an accountant just to file a bunch of zeros. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this thread has been a lifesaver for understanding what I need to do!

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Dana Doyle

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As someone who went through this exact situation recently, I can confirm that you definitely need to file Form 1065 even with zero activity. I know it seems pointless when you literally have nothing to report, but the IRS treats this as a mandatory information return for all partnerships, regardless of income level. The process is actually much simpler than you'd expect when there's no business activity. Most lines will be zeros, and you'll mainly need to fill out basic partnership info, partner details (you and your husband with ownership percentages), and Schedule L showing any initial capital contributions you made when setting up the LLC. I used FreeTaxUSA for my dormant LLC partnership return and it took about 90 minutes total. The software does a good job of guiding you through which sections need zeros versus which can be left blank. Make sure you have your EIN and any documentation of initial money you put into the business ready before you start. Those failure-to-file penalties are no joke - $210 per partner per month can add up to thousands even when you made zero income. It's definitely worth spending the couple hours to file rather than risk that kind of penalty. The peace of mind alone makes it worthwhile!

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