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Sophia Gabriel

Do I need to amend Federal return when amending state return for US Govt. Securities income that's state tax exempt?

I messed up and need to file an amended state return because I totally missed including my State Tax Exempt Income from U.S. Government Securities. The money market funds didn't send me this info until after I'd already filed my taxes, so I didn't account for it. Here's what's confusing me - do I also have to amend my Federal return even though nothing changes with the amounts I owe federally? I have no idea if this value shows up somewhere on the Federal forms or not. When I tried to fix this through the amendment option in TurboTax, it's making me enter the change under Federal first, then it seems like it wants me to amend both returns. It looks like I can choose to only file the State amendment, but I'm not 100% sure. I really don't want to screw this up by filing an amended Federal return that has no actual changes. In TurboTax, this amount is recorded under 1099-DIV, if that matters. Any help would be super appreciated!

You're not alone in this confusion! When dealing with U.S. Government Securities income that's exempt from state tax, you generally don't need to amend your federal return if the amounts there aren't changing. What's happening in TurboTax is that the software uses your federal information as the starting point for state returns, so you need to enter the information at the federal level first. However, this doesn't necessarily mean you need to file an amended federal return. In most tax software, including TurboTax, you should be able to complete the process for the federal amendment (entering the U.S. Government Securities income correctly), but then only actually file the state amendment. There should be an option near the end of the amendment process where you can select which returns to file. I'd recommend going through the entire amendment process in TurboTax, and when you get to the final review/filing stage, look for options to select only the state return for filing.

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Ezra Beard

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Thanks for explaining. I'm confused about one thing though - if I enter this info at the federal level but don't file federally, won't that create a discrepancy between what I originally filed federally and what the state amendment is based on? Also, does this U.S. Government Securities income show up on any federal form even though it doesn't change my federal tax?

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Great question. The U.S. Government Securities income actually does show up on your federal return - it's reported on Schedule B as interest income. However, it doesn't change your federal tax liability because this type of interest is fully taxable at the federal level. It's only exempt at the state level. When you complete the federal portion in TurboTax but only file the state amendment, you're just using the software's workflow as designed. No discrepancy is created because you're correctly accounting for all income on both returns - you're just only submitting the state amendment because that's the only place where a correction is needed.

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Does this tool actually work with TurboTax files? Can I upload my current return to see if I'm doing it right before I file the amendment? I'm worried about making things worse.

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Aria Khan

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I'm skeptical about tax tools claiming to do what tax pros do. How does it actually verify that the state amendment would be accepted without the federal one? Does it have specific knowledge about different states' requirements for this U.S. Government Securities situation?

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I actually went through this exact scenario with U.S. Government Securities income last year. Here's what I learned: The interest from U.S. Government Securities shows up on your federal Schedule B, but it doesn't get any special treatment federally (it's taxable). At the state level, this income is typically exempt. In TurboTax, you do need to enter the information at the federal level since that's how the program flows, but you don't need to actually file an amended federal return. When you get to the end of the amendment process, there should be checkboxes for which returns you want to file. Just select state only. If TurboTax doesn't give you that option, you might need to call their support. There's definitely a way to amend just the state return, since this is a pretty common scenario.

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Melissa Lin

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Does the same apply for H&R Block software? I have a similar situation with U.S. Government Securities but I'm using H&R Block instead of TurboTax.

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Yes, this applies to H&R Block software too. The process is similar - you'll need to enter the U.S. Government Securities income information at the federal level first, and then when you get to the filing stage, you should see options for which amended returns you want to file. H&R Block's interface is slightly different, but the concept is the same since all tax software starts with federal information and flows to state. Look for a filing selection page toward the end of the amendment process where you can choose to only file the state amendment.

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Quick question for anyone who's done this - when amending just the state return for U.S. Government Securities income, did you have to pay any penalties or interest for the original underpayment? I realized I missed about $2,500 in exempt income on my state return, which wouldn't change my federal taxes but would reduce my state tax by about $150.

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Romeo Quest

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In my experience, if you file the amended state return promptly after discovering the error, many states will waive penalties but might still charge interest from the original due date. I amended my NY state return for U.S. Government Securities income I missed, and they charged interest but waived the penalty since I voluntarily corrected it.

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