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Daniel Rogers

Divorce and $500k house sale - can both ex-spouses still claim the $250k capital gains exclusion separately?

My friends are going through a divorce and they own their primary residence jointly. When they sell the house, they're looking at about $450k in capital gains. They also have two rental properties they're selling this year. With some carry-forward losses they've accumulated, they should be able to offset most of the capital gains from those rental sales. Here's where I'm confused - their accountant is telling them to wait until next year (after the divorce is finalized) to sell their primary home. The current plan is to have one of them continue living in the house for about a year, split the maintenance costs, and then sell it post-divorce. They'll then divide the capital gains. I don't get the tax advantage of this approach. Since they're joint owners, wouldn't the capital gains get split between them anyway? Couldn't each of them then apply their individual $250k capital gains exclusion to their portion (essentially covering the entire $450k gain)? Or does divorce somehow affect their ability to each claim the $250k exclusion on the primary residence, even though they remain joint owners on the property?

Aaliyah Reed

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The accountant is probably focusing on the ownership AND use test for the capital gains exclusion on a primary residence. To qualify for the $250k exclusion ($500k for married filing jointly), you must have: 1) Owned the home for at least 2 years during the 5-year period ending on the date of sale 2) Used the home as your primary residence for at least 2 years during that same 5-year period If they sell while still married, they can exclude up to $500k of gain (assuming they meet both tests). If they sell after divorce, each can potentially exclude $250k of their portion of the gain, but only if they BOTH meet the ownership and use tests individually. The concern might be that once one spouse moves out during divorce proceedings, they stop meeting the "use" test. The IRS does have an exception that allows an ex-spouse who's moved out to count their ex's time of use toward their own requirement if a divorce agreement gives one ex the right to live there, but specific conditions apply.

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Ella Russell

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But wait, if only one spouse continues living in the house after separation but before the divorce is final, does that spouse get the full $500k exclusion or just their own $250k?

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Aaliyah Reed

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Only the spouse who continues to live in the home would maintain the "use" test on their own. Once divorced, they would each qualify for their individual $250k exclusion (not the $500k married exclusion). The non-resident ex-spouse could possibly still qualify under a special exception in the tax code. When a divorce instrument grants one spouse the right to live in the home, the spouse who moved out can still count the resident ex-spouse's use of the home as their own use for purposes of the exclusion. However, they must still meet the ownership test independently, and specific paperwork must be in place.

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Did it help with the 2-out-of-5 year calculation? My CPA seems confused about how that applies in my divorce situation... especially since I moved out 18 months ago but we're still joint owners.

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Anna Stewart

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Something else to consider in this situation is that if they're selling rental properties with losses in the same year, there might be passive activity loss limitations depending on their income levels. Did the accountant mention anything about that? I went through something similar and found out that the passive losses were limited because our income was too high, so we couldn't offset all the capital gains from the rentals as we'd hoped.

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Daniel Rogers

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No, they didn't mention anything specific about passive activity loss limitations. They do have pretty high incomes though, so that's a really good point. I'll suggest they ask about this specifically. Do you know if spreading the sales across different tax years would help with this issue? Maybe that's another reason the accountant suggested waiting on the primary residence sale?

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Anna Stewart

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Spreading sales across tax years could definitely help, especially if their income will be lower after the divorce (filing single vs jointly). Passive losses are limited when your modified adjusted gross income exceeds $150,000, and unused losses carry forward. If they sell the rentals first and have unused losses that carry forward, those losses could potentially offset some gains from selling the primary residence in the following year. Of course, that has to be balanced against the benefits of the primary residence exclusion. Also, if either of them qualifies as a real estate professional (750+ hours/year in real estate activities), that could change how passive losses are treated. It's complicated stuff - they should definitely discuss these specifics with their accountant.

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Layla Sanders

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Has anyone mentioned the "temporary absence" provision? IRS Publication 523 allows for "temporary absences" from the home due to various circumstances (including divorce) without disrupting the "use" test. So even if one spouse moves out during divorce proceedings, if they can argue it's a "temporary absence" during the 5-year period, they might still qualify for their exclusion without needing the special divorce provisions.

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I tried using the "temporary absence" argument in my divorce and it backfired. The IRS questioned my intent - since I had no plans to move back, they didn't consider it temporary. We ended up having to rely on the specific divorce instrument language instead. Better to have proper documentation in the divorce agreement than trying to argue "temporary absence" after the fact.

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This is exactly why divorce and taxes get so complicated! Your friends' accountant is being smart about timing. Here's the key issue: while married filing jointly, they can exclude up to $500k in capital gains from their primary residence. But once divorced, they each get their own $250k exclusion. The tricky part is the "use test" - both spouses need to have used the home as their primary residence for 2 of the last 5 years before the sale. If one moves out during divorce proceedings and they sell while still married, they might lose the full $500k exclusion if the moved-out spouse doesn't meet the use test. By waiting until after divorce and having proper language in the divorce decree (as others mentioned), they can ensure both qualify for their individual $250k exclusions. With $450k in gains, this covers them completely. Also consider: if their income drops after divorce (filing separately vs jointly), they might have better options for using those rental property losses. The passive activity loss rules at higher income levels can be brutal.

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Eva St. Cyr

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This is really helpful! I'm actually going through something similar and hadn't considered how the passive activity loss rules might work differently when filing separately vs jointly after divorce. Quick question - you mentioned that income dropping after divorce could help with using rental property losses. Is that because the $150k AGI threshold for passive loss limitations would apply to each person's separate income rather than their combined income? So if they were making $200k combined but only $100k each separately, they might be able to use losses they couldn't use before? Also, do you know if there's a specific timeframe the divorce decree language needs to be in place before the sale, or can it be added retroactively?

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Yuki Yamamoto

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@Eva St. Cyr Exactly right on the passive loss limitations! When married filing jointly with $200k combined income, they re well'above the $150k threshold where passive losses get phased out. But filing separately at $100k each could put them back in the range where they can use up to $25k in passive losses annually. Regarding the divorce decree language - it needs to be in the actual divorce or separation instrument before the sale occurs. You can t add'it retroactively after the fact. The IRS is pretty strict about this - they want to see that the use arrangement was formally documented as part of the divorce proceedings. That said, if you re still'in the middle of divorce proceedings, you might be able to get a temporary separation agreement that includes the necessary language about home use, then incorporate it into the final decree. The key is having it documented before the sale happens. One more thing to watch out for - make sure the decree specifically grants the right to use the home, not just says someone can live there. The IRS wants to see clear language about the legal right to occupy the property.

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Another angle to consider - if they're selling multiple properties in the same year, they might want to look into a 1031 exchange for the rental properties instead of taking the losses all at once. Even though they're divorcing, they could potentially defer the capital gains on the rentals by exchanging into new investment properties. This could simplify the tax planning around the primary residence sale since they wouldn't be trying to coordinate the rental losses with the home sale timing. Plus, if one spouse wants to stay in real estate investing post-divorce, the 1031 could set them up better for the future. Of course, 1031 exchanges have their own complexity and strict timing requirements, but it might be worth discussing with their accountant as an alternative strategy. The key would be making sure the exchange is completed before the divorce is finalized so they can act as a unified entity for the exchange process.

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That's a really interesting point about the 1031 exchange! I hadn't thought about how divorce timing could affect the ability to do exchanges. One question though - if they do a 1031 exchange on the rental properties, wouldn't that just kick the tax liability down the road? And if they're splitting assets in the divorce, how would they handle the deferred gain obligation? Would both spouses be responsible for the future tax liability even if only one of them ends up with the replacement property? It seems like this could create some messy issues in the divorce settlement if they're not careful about how the exchange property and associated tax obligations get allocated.

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