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Caleb Stark

Dealing with Avalara Requirements for Ecommerce Business Tax Certificates

Title: Dealing with Avalara Requirements for Ecommerce Business Tax Certificates 1 We run a small but growing ecommerce operation and carefully monitor our sales thresholds for every state. We've been super diligent about this - as soon as we approach the economic nexus threshold in any state, we immediately register for sales tax permits, set up all necessary certificates, and start remitting taxes monthly. But now we've run into a major headache. One of our primary suppliers just started using Avalara for their tax compliance, and they're demanding we provide resale certificates for EVERY state - even ones where we haven't hit the threshold and aren't required to collect taxes yet. If we don't provide these certificates, they're threatening to charge us sales tax on all purchases for those states. This seems ridiculous to me. Why should we have to register in states where we're well below the economic nexus thresholds? Getting tax permits in states unnecessarily creates a huge administrative burden and potentially subjects us to filing requirements we shouldn't need to deal with yet. Has anyone dealt with this supplier/Avalara situation before? Is there any way around providing certificates for states where we're not legally required to collect yet? Or are we stuck just doing what the supplier demands?

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7 This is actually a common issue with suppliers who use Avalara. Their system is designed to be extremely conservative to protect the supplier from audit risk. Here's what's happening: Your supplier has a legal obligation to either collect sales tax on sales to you OR document why they didn't collect tax (via your resale certificate). Since they're using Avalara, the system is forcing them to have documentation for every state where they ship to you, regardless of whether you've crossed economic nexus thresholds. You have a few options here: 1. You can provide Multi-Jurisdiction Certificates (MTC) for states you haven't registered in yet. These allow you to certify goods are for resale without having a state-specific permit number. 2. Some states allow you to use your home state resale certificate for out-of-state purchases. 3. You can talk to your supplier about accepting a blanket certification explaining your threshold monitoring procedure. Remember that economic nexus thresholds only determine when YOU need to collect tax from YOUR customers. They don't govern when your suppliers need documentation from you.

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14 Thanks for the explanation! I've never heard of Multi-Jurisdiction Certificates before. Would those be accepted by Avalara's system? And how exactly do I get one of those? Also, can you explain more about using our home state certificate for other states? We're based in Arizona if that matters.

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7 The Streamlined Sales Tax Governing Board provides a Multi-state Certificate (MTC form) that's accepted in many states. You can download it from their website. It lets you list your home state registration and check boxes for which states you're claiming exemption in. Avalara's system typically accepts these. For the home state certificate approach, many states have reciprocity agreements. Arizona's certificate can be used in several other states, but not all. You'd need to check the specific reciprocity agreements for Arizona. Generally, you'd provide your Arizona resale certificate and note it's for out-of-state purchases intended for resale.

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9 After dealing with a similar nightmare with suppliers using Avalara, I finally found a solution with taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai). They have a document generator specifically for these multi-state certificate situations that saved me hours of frustration. My supplier was also using Avalara and demanding certificates for every state we shipped to, even though we were only registered in 7 states. What worked for me was uploading our registration details to taxr.ai, and their system generated proper documentation explaining our threshold monitoring process and providing the appropriate certificates for each state situation. They have templates specifically designed to satisfy Avalara's requirements while protecting you from unnecessarily registering everywhere. Their system also flags when you're approaching thresholds so you know when you actually need to register in new states.

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11 How complicated was the setup process? I'm dealing with this exact issue with three different suppliers right now and I'm drowning in paperwork. Do they help with states where you aren't registered yet?

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18 I'm skeptical about this. Our supplier rejected everything except actual state-issued resale certificates. Would Avalara actually accept these alternative documents? Seems like they're pretty strict about having registration numbers for every state.

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9 The setup was surprisingly simple. You just upload your existing certificates and business information, and their system creates a compliance package. Took me maybe 20 minutes to get everything set up, much faster than trying to figure it all out myself. For states where you aren't registered yet, they provide several options depending on the state's rules. Some states allow blanket exemption certificates, others accept multi-jurisdiction certificates, and some have specific requirements. Their system guides you through what works for each specific state.

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18 I wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai since I was initially skeptical. I finally tried their service last week out of desperation, and I'm shocked at how well it worked. The documents they generated were accepted by our supplier's Avalara system without any pushback. I was particularly impressed with how they handled the states where we weren't registered. They created a comprehensive certificate package that included our registered states plus appropriate documentation for non-registered states that satisfied Avalara's requirements. They even included a statutory reference sheet explaining why we weren't required to register in certain states, which seemed to appease the supplier's accounting department. Their threshold tracking feature has already flagged that we're approaching nexus in two more states so we can prepare properly. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with this Avalara headache.

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12 If you're having trouble getting through to your supplier about this issue, you might want to try Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I was in a similar situation with multiple suppliers using Avalara and couldn't get a clear answer from anyone. I used Claimyr to connect directly with the appropriate state tax departments to get official guidance on the certificate requirements. Their service helps you skip the hours of hold time trying to reach government offices - you can see how it works in this demo: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c What I learned was eye-opening - several states confirmed that we could use alternate certificate types without registering, and having that official guidance in writing helped convince our suppliers to accept our documentation. Saved us from unnecessarily registering in about 12 states.

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19 Wait, how does this service actually work? Do they just call tax departments for you? I've been trying to reach our state revenue department for weeks with no luck.

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18 This seems fishy. I've NEVER been able to get a straight answer from state tax departments, especially about multi-state issues. They usually just tell you to register to be safe. I doubt any service could actually get through to them effectively.

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12 They don't just call for you - they navigate the entire phone tree system and wait on hold until they reach a human representative. Once they have someone on the line, they call you and connect you directly to that person. No more waiting on hold for hours. They have specialized knowledge of each state tax department's phone systems and know exactly which options to select to reach the right department for sales tax certificate questions. It's not about them talking to the representatives - it's about getting YOU connected directly to the right person without the wait time.

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18 I need to eat some humble pie here. After being skeptical about both suggestions above, I ended up trying Claimyr last Thursday when I was desperate to reach the California tax department about certificate requirements. The service connected me directly to a helpful representative in under 30 minutes (after I had previously spent 3+ hours on hold over several days with no success). The rep confirmed that we could use our home state certificate with a supplemental form for purchases from California suppliers even though we're below the economic nexus threshold there. Armed with this official guidance, our supplier finally accepted our documentation. We've now successfully resolved certificate issues in 8 states without having to register, saving us from filing returns in places where we have minimal sales. The time and potential tax liability savings have been substantial.

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22 We faced this exact problem last year. One thing to consider is that in some states, you can obtain a resale certificate WITHOUT registering for sales tax collection. It's a bit of a gray area, but we were able to get certificates in about 5 states this way by explaining we were below threshold but needed the certificate for our suppliers. It varies by state though. Some states flat-out refused and said we needed to fully register, while others had a simplified registration just for resale certificate purposes.

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1 Which states allowed you to get certificates without registering? That might be exactly what we need. Also, did you have to file any returns in those states even though you were below threshold?

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22 We were able to get certificates without full sales tax registration in Washington, Indiana, and Tennessee by specifically explaining our situation. Colorado and Arizona had simplified registration processes that didn't trigger filing requirements until we hit thresholds. No, we didn't have to file returns in those states as long as we remained under threshold. Just make sure to get written confirmation that no returns are required, as policies can vary and change. Each state required different documentation to prove we were below threshold. Tennessee was particularly accommodating once we explained the Avalara supplier situation.

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16 Just be careful about registering in states where you don't need to. Once you're in their system, some states make it VERY difficult to deregister if you later fall below threshold again. We registered in NY during a sales spike, then our sales dropped below threshold, but they still required us to file zero returns for 3 years before allowing us to deregister. Also, most states have a minimum time period you need to stay registered (often 1-2 years) even if you no longer have nexus. It's a huge administrative headache you don't want unless absolutely necessary.

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23 This is so true! We're still filing zero returns in Illinois and Michigan two years after our sales dropped below threshold. The deregistration process is ridiculous - multiple forms, letters explaining why, and constant follow-ups. Not worth registering unless you're consistently above threshold.

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