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Constructive receipt doctrine and ACH bank transfer rules for 2025 taxes

So I'm in a bit of a tax dilemma that involves the constructive receipt doctrine and some bank transfer timing issues. Back in 2023, I wrote a check to a contractor for some work they did on my rental property. The payment would be taxable income to them and a deductible expense for me. We're both cash basis taxpayers. Here's where it gets complicated - I had transferred money from my primary account (Wells Fargo) to my business account (Chase), and wrote the check from the Chase account. Due to ACH bank rules, even though I initiated the transfer and it showed as "pending" in my Chase account, the money wasn't officially available for 3 business days. The contractor deposited the check on the same day I wrote it (Dec 30, 2023), but it didn't clear my account until January 4, 2024 because of the ACH hold and the New Year's holiday. Now I'm confused about which tax year I can claim the deduction - 2023 when I wrote the check and they received it, or 2024 when it actually cleared my account? And on the flip side, when does the contractor need to report this as income? The amount is $5,750 so it's not insignificant for either of us. Anyone familiar with how constructive receipt doctrine works with these ACH bank rules? When looking at my 2025 filing for 2024 taxes, I need to get this straight.

Summer Green

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The constructive receipt doctrine is pretty clear in your situation, but people often misunderstand it. For check payments, the general rule is that the deduction is allowed in the year the check is delivered or mailed, as long as it's eventually cashed in due course. This is known as the "mailbox rule" for tax purposes. For you as the payer, you can claim the deduction in 2023 because that's when you delivered the check, regardless of when it actually cleared your account. The fact that there were ACH delays between your accounts doesn't affect when you can take the deduction. For the contractor receiving the payment, they should report the income in the year they received the check (2023), not when they deposited it or when it cleared. Under constructive receipt doctrine, income is considered received when it's made available without substantial limitations - which happens when they physically receive the check. The ACH transfer between your accounts is basically irrelevant to the tax timing question. The important date is when the check changed hands.

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Gael Robinson

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But wait, doesn't the check have to actually clear for it to count? What if there were insufficient funds in the account when the contractor tried to deposit it? Wouldn't that mean the payment wasn't actually made in 2023?

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Summer Green

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That's actually a good question. For the deduction to be valid in 2023, you need to have had sufficient funds available to cover the check when it was presented for payment. If you didn't actually have the funds available (including pending transfers), and the check would have bounced if presented immediately, then the deduction would belong in 2024 when the funds became available and the check cleared. The key test is whether you made payment in good faith and had reasonable expectation the check would clear. If you knew the ACH hold would prevent the check from clearing until January, that could potentially push the deduction to 2024.

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Khalid Howes

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I dealt with this exact situation last year. The key thing to understand is "delivery of payment" vs "clearing of payment." As a cash basis taxpayer, what matters is when you delivered the payment - in your case 2023. The ACH rules between your banks are irrelevant from a tax perspective. What matters is: 1) You wrote and delivered the check in 2023 2) The recipient had the unrestricted right to cash it immediately 3) You had a reasonable expectation that funds would be available The fact that banking delays (ACH holds plus holidays) pushed the actual clearing to 2024 doesn't change the tax year for either of you. You get the deduction in 2023, and they should report the income in 2023.

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Ben Cooper

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What if the check was delivered Dec 31 and they couldn't possibly deposit it until banks opened on Jan 2? Would that change things?

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Khalid Howes

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Even if they received it December 31 when banks were closed, it's still considered 2023 income/deduction. The critical test is whether they had the "unrestricted right" to the funds - meaning they physically had the check and could theoretically cash or deposit it. The fact that banks were closed is considered a "ministerial" delay, not a substantial limitation on their right to the money. The IRS considers the payment complete when the check is in their possession, regardless of whether they could immediately convert it to cash due to bank hours or holidays.

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Naila Gordon

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Has anyone considered the "relation-back doctrine" in this situation? According to my accountant, this is what applies to check payments rather than just constructive receipt. I was told that a check payment is considered made when the check is delivered as long as: - It's dated the day of delivery or earlier - It's delivered before year-end - There's no restriction on cashing it - It's cashed within a reasonable time (usually considered to be within 30 days) This is different from constructive receipt which is more about when the recipient should recognize income.

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Cynthia Love

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This is exactly right. The relation-back doctrine is what the IRS uses for check payments. I just had this issue come up in an audit for my small business. The agent specifically looked at the date on the check, the date of delivery (we had receipts for certified mail), and whether the checks cleared in a reasonable time. As long as all those conditions are met, you can claim the deduction in the year the check was delivered, even if it didn't clear until the next year. The key is having sufficient funds available when the check would have been presented - which sounds like the issue with the ACH hold.

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I went through something very similar with a year-end payment to a subcontractor. The IRS Publication 538 actually addresses this specific scenario under "Payment by Check" rules for cash basis taxpayers. The bottom line is that your deduction belongs in 2023 because that's when you delivered the check, regardless of the ACH processing delays between your accounts. The key factors that support this are: 1) You delivered the check on December 30, 2023 2) The contractor could have deposited it immediately (no restrictions) 3) You had initiated the transfer to ensure funds would be available The fact that ACH rules created a delay in your account doesn't matter for tax purposes - what matters is that you made the payment in good faith with reasonable expectation it would clear. Since it did clear without bouncing, you're golden for the 2023 deduction. For the contractor, they report it as 2023 income since that's when they received the check. The deposit timing is irrelevant under constructive receipt doctrine. Just make sure you keep documentation of the transfer initiation date and the check delivery date in case you ever need to support the timing during an audit.

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Justin Trejo

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This is really helpful! I'm new to dealing with rental property expenses and the timing rules. Just to make sure I understand - if I write a check on December 31st but know my account won't have funds available until January 3rd due to a pending transfer, that would still count as a 2023 deduction as long as the check eventually clears without bouncing? The "good faith" part seems like the key test here. Also, do I need to keep any specific documentation beyond just the cancelled check and bank statements showing the transfer? You mentioned keeping records of the transfer initiation date - is there a particular form or record that's most important for audit purposes?

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