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Can spouses each loan $10k without charging interest under IRS rules?

So I'm trying to help out my sister who's going through a rough divorce and needs some money to get back on her feet. My husband and I want to loan her some cash but we're trying to figure out the rules around interest. I've been looking at Publication 550 which says you can make a personal loan to a friend or family member and not have to charge interest if the loan is $10k or less. The question I have is - could my husband and I EACH loan her $10k (so total $20k) and not need to charge interest? Or does the IRS look at that as one loan coming from our household that would require interest to not be considered a gift? This seems similar to the annual gift exclusion of $17k - where each spouse can gift someone $17k, so together we could give $34k without filing a gift tax return. The exact language from Pub 550 says: "Exceptions to the below-market loan rules. Exceptions to the below-market loan rules are discussed here. Exception for loans of $10,000 or less. The rules for below-market loans do not apply to any day on which the total outstanding amount of loans between the borrower and lender is $10,000 or less. This exception applies only to: 1. Gift loans between individuals if the gift loan is not directly used to buy or carry income-producing assets, and 2. Compensation-related loans or corporation-shareholder loans if the avoidance of federal tax is not a principal purpose of the interest arrangement." Any insights would be appreciated!

Dmitry Petrov

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This is a great question about family loans! The key here is understanding how the IRS views married couples in different contexts. For the $10,000 exemption on below-market loans, the IRS generally treats each spouse as a separate individual lender when the funds are coming from separate accounts. So technically, you and your husband could each loan your sister $10,000 interest-free without triggering imputed interest rules. However, there's an important caveat: the IRS has the authority to look at the substance over form of transactions. If they determine the primary purpose is to circumvent tax rules by splitting what is essentially one $20,000 loan into two $10,000 loans, they could challenge this. You're right about the gift tax parallel - the annual exclusion does work that way where spouses can each give $17,000 to the same person. But loan rules and gift rules operate under different sections of the tax code.

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StormChaser

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Thanks for the explanation! We do have separate accounts so that's helpful to know. If we want to be extra cautious, would it make sense to create two separate loan documents with different terms or payment schedules to really emphasize they're separate loans? Or is that getting too complicated?

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Dmitry Petrov

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Creating separate loan documents with different terms would definitely strengthen your position that these are truly separate loans. Different repayment schedules, perhaps even different dates of loan origination would help. Documentation is always your friend when it comes to potential IRS scrutiny. A word of caution though - make sure the loans are actually used according to their stated purpose. If your sister immediately combines the funds for a single purchase, that could undermine the separate nature of the loans.

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Wait, so did the IRS agent actually say it was okay or not? Did they give you anything in writing? I've had IRS agents tell me different things before so I'm always wary of phone advice.

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Keisha Brown

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Another option to consider if you're worried about the interest issue is to just charge the minimum applicable federal rate (AFR). Right now the short-term AFR is super low, like around 5%. So on a $20k loan that's only like $1000 in interest per year. Your sister would need to pay that interest and you'd report it as income, but then there's zero questions about whether it's a proper loan.

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StormChaser

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That's a good point about the AFR rates! Do you know if we'd need to report that income if it's under the $10 threshold? Like if we did charge interest but my sister never actually pays it or we forgive it?

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Keisha Brown

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Even if you charge the interest but don't collect it, you're technically supposed to report it as "phantom income" - the IRS considers it constructively received. If you formally forgive the interest each year, that could be considered a gift from you to your sister. One thing some people do is structure it so the loan itself is legitimate with proper interest, but then they gift the borrower money separately (up to the annual exclusion) that happens to equal the interest payment. Keeps everything clean from a documentation standpoint.

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Just a warning from someone who's been there... document EVERYTHING no matter which way you go. My parents loaned me $15k a few years back, charged proper interest and everything, but we didn't create a formal loan document. When they got audited for something completely unrelated, the IRS questioned the loan and ended up treating it as a gift. Huge headache for everyone.

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Amina Toure

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How did your parents prove it was a loan without formal documentation? Did you have like email records or anything that helped?

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Ruby Knight

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I went through something similar when helping my nephew with college expenses. One thing that really helped was creating a simple spreadsheet tracking all payments and ensuring we had clear documentation showing the funds came from different sources (my checking account vs. my spouse's savings account). Also worth noting - if your sister is going through a divorce, make sure the loan doesn't complicate her divorce proceedings. Sometimes large financial transactions during divorce can be scrutinized by the court or the ex-spouse's attorney. You might want to coordinate with her divorce lawyer to make sure the timing and structure won't cause issues. From a practical standpoint, I'd recommend having both loan agreements reference different purposes if possible (like one for living expenses, one for legal fees) to further distinguish them as separate transactions. And definitely keep records of how she uses the money - if she immediately deposits both loans into one account and uses them interchangeably, it could undermine the "separate loan" argument.

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Luca Romano

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Great point about the divorce complications! I hadn't even thought about that aspect. Do you think it would be better to wait until after her divorce is finalized, or would having the loans documented properly actually help show that she has legitimate financial support available? I'm worried about the timing either way - she needs help now but I don't want to make her legal situation worse. Also, your idea about referencing different purposes is really smart. We were thinking one loan could be for immediate living expenses and the other for job training/certification costs to help her get back on her feet career-wise. Would that kind of distinction be sufficient in the IRS's eyes?

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