Can someone explain the NIIT - don't really understand what it is?
I've been doing my taxes and keep seeing this NIIT thing mentioned. Is this the 3.8% tax that gets added on top of our dividends and interest income if our adjusted gross income is over $275,000 (we're married filing jointly)? So does that mean these investment earnings would be taxed at our regular tax rate PLUS an extra 3.8%? We're not planning to sell any stocks or bonds from our brokerage account this year, but I'm trying to understand if this NIIT would still apply to our dividend payments and interest. Just want to make sure I'm getting this right before I finish our returns.
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Dylan Wright
The Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT) is a 3.8% tax that applies to certain investment income for higher-income taxpayers. You've got the basic idea right! This tax applies to the lesser of your net investment income OR the amount by which your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) exceeds the threshold ($275,000 for married filing jointly in 2025). Investment income includes things like interest, dividends, capital gains, rental income, and passive business income. Even if you're not selling stocks or bonds, your dividends and interest can still be subject to the NIIT if your income exceeds the threshold. So yes, those investment earnings would effectively be taxed at your regular income tax rate plus the additional 3.8% NIIT.
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Sofia Torres
•Does this mean I need to make quarterly estimated tax payments for the NIIT part too? Or is it just calculated once at tax time?
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Dylan Wright
•Yes, if you expect to owe a significant amount due to the NIIT, you should include it in your estimated tax payments throughout the year. The NIIT is reported on Form 8960 and added to your regular income tax on Form 1040. If you're primarily earning dividends and interest, these are usually predictable enough to calculate approximate quarterly payments. Just remember that failing to pay enough during the year could result in underpayment penalties.
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GalacticGuardian
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Dmitry Smirnov
•Does it work with all tax situations or just for investment income? I have some rental properties too and wondering if it would help with figuring out NIIT on those.
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Ava Rodriguez
•Hmm sounds interesting but how accurate is it? I've had tax software mess up my NIIT calculations before and ended up having to fix it manually.
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GalacticGuardian
•It definitely works with rental properties! The system analyzes rental income and tells you which portions might be subject to NIIT based on whether it's passive income or active business income. It was super helpful for figuring out the difference. The accuracy has been great in my experience. I cross-checked the results with what my CPA calculated and they matched perfectly. It's especially good at handling the more complex stuff like when you have multiple income sources that might affect your NIIT calculation.
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Dmitry Smirnov
Just wanted to update - I tried taxr.ai after asking about it and it was really helpful! I uploaded my statements and it showed me exactly how much of my rental income is considered passive vs active for NIIT purposes. It also calculated how close I am to the threshold and gave suggestions for possibly reducing my NIIT liability. Definitely cleared up my confusion about this tax!
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Miguel Diaz
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Zainab Ahmed
•Wait how does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you? Couldn't I just do that myself?
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Connor Gallagher
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Miguel Diaz
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Connor Gallagher
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AstroAlpha
Something nobody has mentioned yet - there are ways to potentially reduce your NIIT liability through tax planning. We shifted some of our investments to tax-advantaged accounts like Roth IRAs which don't generate income that counts toward NIIT. You might also look into tax-loss harvesting or municipal bonds which generate tax-exempt interest.
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Yara Khoury
•Would investing in growth stocks that don't pay dividends help reduce the NIIT? Since they don't generate current income until you sell?
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AstroAlpha
•Yes, that's a good strategy. Growth stocks that don't pay dividends won't generate current investment income subject to NIIT. You'll only potentially face NIIT when you sell and realize capital gains. Investments that generate unrealized appreciation rather than current income can be an effective way to defer the NIIT. Just remember that the eventual sale will potentially trigger both capital gains tax and NIIT if your income is above the threshold in the year you sell.
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Keisha Taylor
Does anyone know if 401k withdrawals count as income that pushes you over the NIIT threshold? Not investment income itself but the income that determines if you're over $275k?
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Paolo Longo
•Yes, distributions from retirement accounts like 401ks and traditional IRAs count toward your MAGI, which is used to determine if you're over the threshold. They're not considered investment income subject to NIIT themselves, but they can push your other investment income into NIIT territory by raising your MAGI.
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