Is Net Investment Income Tax (Form 8960) double taxation? Confused by how my interest/dividends get taxed twice
So I'm working through Form 8960 for the first time and I'm seriously confused about whether this is supposed to be double taxation or if I'm doing something wrong. Here's what's happening: * I have about $7,800 in taxable interest (line 1) and around $12,450 in ordinary dividends (line 2). When I add these up on line 8, I get $20,250. * Part II is completely empty for me. * I'm filing as single, so line 14 is $200,000. My MAGI (line 13) is about $235,000, which is more than $200,000 + $20,250. So line 16 ends up just being $20,250. * When I multiply $20,250 by 0.038, I get $769.50 on line 17. * This $769.50 goes on line 12 in Schedule 2 Form 1040, which then transfers to line 23 on Form 1040. But here's what's confusing me - I've already included these same interest and dividends on lines 2b and 3b of Form 1040, where they get taxed as regular income. So it feels like my investment income is being taxed TWICE - once as regular income and then again at 3.8% with this NIIT. Is this actually how it's supposed to work? Am I essentially paying tax on the same money twice? Or am I filling something out incorrectly? Really appreciate any help on this!
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Luca Ferrari
Yes, this is actually working as intended! The Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT) on Form 8960 is indeed an additional tax on certain investment income for higher-income taxpayers. It's not a mistake - it's a separate 3.8% tax that applies on top of your regular income tax. The NIIT was created as part of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) to help fund healthcare initiatives. It applies to individuals with MAGI above certain thresholds ($200,000 for single filers, $250,000 for married filing jointly). Your understanding of the calculation is correct. Your investment income (interest and dividends in your case) gets taxed first as part of your regular income tax, and then that same investment income gets hit with an additional 3.8% tax if you're over the MAGI threshold.
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Nia Davis
•Wait so is this the same as the Medicare surtax? And does it apply to capital gains too or just interest and dividends? I'm getting close to that income level and trying to figure out if I need to worry about this for 2025.
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Luca Ferrari
•Yes, the NIIT is sometimes called the Medicare surtax or Medicare contribution tax, though it's technically separate from the regular Medicare tax that comes out of your paycheck. It helps fund Medicare-related programs. The NIIT applies to most types of investment income including interest, dividends, capital gains, rental income, and passive business income. So if you have significant capital gains and your MAGI exceeds the threshold, those gains would be subject to both capital gains tax and the 3.8% NIIT.
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Mateo Martinez
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Aisha Rahman
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Aisha Rahman
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Ethan Wilson
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Yuki Sato
•How does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you? I don't get how a third party service can magically get through when I can't.
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Carmen Flores
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Ethan Wilson
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Carmen Flores
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Andre Dubois
If it helps you feel better about this "double taxation," consider that the government taxes lots of money multiple times. Your employer pays tax on their profits, then they pay you, and you pay income tax. Then you buy something and pay sales tax. Money gets taxed at almost every transfer point! But there are ways to minimize NIIT. I shifted some of my investments to tax-exempt municipal bonds and growth stocks that don't pay dividends. That way I'm not generating as much current investment income that would be subject to both regular tax and NIIT.
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CyberSamurai
•Would putting investments in a Roth IRA help avoid this NIIT? I'm trying to restructure things to minimize taxes since I just crossed the threshold this year.
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Andre Dubois
•Yes, using retirement accounts strategically is one of the best ways to avoid NIIT. Investments in Roth IRAs grow tax-free and qualified withdrawals aren't subject to NIIT. Traditional IRAs and 401(k)s can also help because they reduce your current MAGI, potentially keeping you below the threshold. Another approach is tax-loss harvesting - selling investments that have lost value to offset gains in others. This reduces your net investment income subject to both regular tax and NIIT.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
What software are you using? I had the same confusion with TurboTax but they have a section that explains this. They specifically say that yes, NIIT is an additional tax on investment income - so your understanding is correct.
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Jamal Carter
•I used FreeTaxUSA this year and it handled Form 8960 really well. It even had a warning message explaining that this is an additional tax on investment income for higher earners, not a mistake in the calculation.
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Mei Zhang
You're absolutely correct - this is indeed how the NIIT is designed to work! I went through the exact same confusion when I first encountered Form 8960. It does feel like double taxation because, in a way, it is. Think of the NIIT as a separate Medicare contribution tax that kicks in for higher-income earners. Your investment income gets taxed once as part of your regular income tax (on lines 2b and 3b of Form 1040), and then if your MAGI exceeds the threshold ($200K for single filers), that same investment income gets hit with an additional 3.8% tax. Your calculation looks spot-on: $20,250 in net investment income × 3.8% = $769.50. This is completely separate from and in addition to whatever regular income tax rate you're paying on that same $20,250. It's frustrating, but it's been the law since 2013 as part of the ACA. The good news is you're filling out the form correctly - many people get tripped up thinking they made an error when they see this "double taxation" effect for the first time.
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