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Andre Lefebvre

Can someone explain gross up withholding for relocation expenses? Confused about it

So I moved for a job last year and my company covered around $27,000 for relocation costs. I've noticed these payments showing up on my paystubs as some kind of "gross up" withholding, but I honestly have no idea what that means or how it affects my taxes. Is this money considered income? Do I have to pay taxes on the relocation reimbursement? The HR person just told me "everything is taken care of" but didn't really explain what's happening with the withholding. When I look at my paystubs, there's this weird calculation that I don't understand at all. Can someone please explain in simple terms what gross up withholding actually is and if I need to do anything special when filing my taxes this year?

The "gross up" is actually a good thing for you! Here's what's happening: Under current tax laws, employer-paid relocation expenses are considered taxable income to you. However, when your employer "grosses up" the payment, they're essentially paying the taxes on your behalf. Let me explain with a simple example. If your employer just gave you $27,000 for relocation, you'd owe taxes on that amount - meaning you'd net less than $27,000 after taxes. With a gross-up, your employer calculates how much additional money they need to add to cover all the taxes, so you actually receive the full $27,000 benefit. The gross-up amount will appear on your paystubs and W-2 as additional income, but the extra withholding will also show up, effectively canceling it out tax-wise. When filing your taxes, the grossed-up relocation payment will be included in your W-2 income, but the additional withholding should cover the tax liability. You don't need to do anything special when filing - just be aware that your total income will look higher than your regular salary alone.

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Wait I'm still confused. So if my company paid $15k in relocation and grossed it up, does that mean the $15k is already taxed? Or do I still have to pay taxes on it? And does this mean I'll get a bigger tax refund or smaller?

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The $15k relocation payment is taxable income, but your employer has already paid the taxes on your behalf - that's what the "gross up" means. Your W-2 will show both the relocation amount AND the additional money your employer added to cover the taxes as income. For example, if the combined tax rate is about 30%, your employer might add $6.5k (that's the "gross up" portion) to cover the taxes on the $15k, making your total reported income from this $21.5k. As for refunds, it shouldn't significantly impact your refund amount either way if they calculated the withholding correctly. The extra income and extra withholding should roughly balance each other out. However, if they over-withheld, you might see a slightly larger refund.

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Mei Wong

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QuantumQuasar

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Mei Wong

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Liam McGuire

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Amara Eze

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Wait how does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you or what? I've been trying to get through about a similar issue for weeks.

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Amara Eze

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Ok I need to publicly eat my words about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it anyway out of desperation (was on hold with IRS for 3+ hours previous day before getting disconnected). Got connected to an actual IRS agent in 37 minutes! The agent confirmed that my employer's gross up calculations for my relocation were incorrect - they weren't including state taxes in the gross up formula. Got the exact IRS publication number to show my HR department. HR is now recalculating my relocation gross up and will be issuing a corrected W-2. This literally saved me thousands in unexpected tax bills. Never been happier to be wrong about something!

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Dylan Wright

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One thing nobody mentioned yet about gross up withholding - depending on WHEN during the year your relocation payment happened, the withholding calculation might be off. The payroll system sometimes calculates the withholding as if you'll make that same huge amount every pay period all year. So if your $27k relocation payment and gross up hit in February, the system might think "oh this person makes $27k every two weeks" and withholds at the highest tax bracket rate. This usually sorts itself out by year end, but can cause weird paychecks temporarily. I'd recommend double checking that the withholding amount seems reasonable - should be roughly 22-24% federal plus 7.65% FICA plus state taxes on the relocation amount.

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That actually explains a LOT. My relocation payment hit in March and my paycheck was tiny after all the withholding - like way less than I expected. So will this fix itself when I file my taxes or do I need to ask HR to adjust something?

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Dylan Wright

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This will fix itself when you file your tax return. Basically, the system withheld too much during that pay period because it assumed your annual income was much higher than it actually will be. When you file your return, the total withholding for the year gets compared to your actual tax liability based on your real annual income, and you'll get the excess back as a refund. You don't need to ask HR to adjust anything now, as it would just complicate things. Just be aware your refund will likely be larger than usual when you file. If you need the money sooner, you could consider adjusting your W-4 to reduce withholding on your remaining paychecks this year, but for most people it's simpler to just wait for the refund.

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Sofia Torres

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Don't forget that even with gross up, your relocation might push you into a higher tax bracket overall, which could affect your other deductions and credits! When I relocated, the extra $30k in grossed up income pushed me over a threshold that reduced my student loan interest deduction and child tax credit. The gross up usually only accounts for the taxes on the relocation itself, not these secondary effects. Might want to run a tax projection if you have income-based credits or deductions to see if you'll be affected.

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This is so important! Happened to my family too - our relocation gross up looked fine on paper but pushed us over the MAGI limit for child tax credit. The company's gross up covered the direct taxes but not the lost $2000 credit. Definitely check ALL income-sensitive tax benefits if you had a relocation payment.

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Sofia Torres

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Exactly! Most employer gross up calculations only consider the direct tax impact on the relocation payment itself, not these secondary effects. Other things to watch for: income-based retirement contribution limits, healthcare premium tax credits, and student loan income-driven repayment calculations. Another tip: if you're close to a tax bracket threshold, ask if your relocation payment can be split between two tax years. Some companies are willing to do this, which can minimize the bracket impact. We were able to split our relocation between December and January which saved us from losing eligibility for several credits.

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Just wanted to add another perspective on gross up withholding that might help. I work in payroll and see this confusion constantly. The key thing to understand is that gross up is essentially your employer "making you whole" for the tax burden they're creating by giving you taxable relocation benefits. Think of it this way: if you need $20k to actually cover your moving expenses, but that $20k becomes taxable income to you, you'd end up with less than $20k after taxes. So your employer calculates how much extra they need to give you so that after all taxes are paid, you still net that $20k you actually need. The math can look confusing on your paystub because it shows both the original relocation amount AND the additional gross up amount as income, but then shows corresponding withholding to cover the taxes on both. Your employer is essentially paying your taxes for you on this benefit. One thing to watch for: make sure your employer included state taxes in their gross up calculation if you live in a state with income tax. Some companies forget this and only gross up for federal taxes, leaving you short when state taxes are due.

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GamerGirl99

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Thank you so much for explaining this from a payroll perspective! That "making you whole" concept finally clicked for me. I've been staring at my paystubs for weeks trying to understand why there were two different amounts showing up. Quick question - how can I tell if my employer included state taxes in their gross up calculation? My state has a 6% income tax rate, and I want to make sure I'm not going to get hit with an unexpected bill when I file. Is there something specific I should look for on my paystub or W-2? Also, is it normal for the gross up withholding to make my regular paycheck look really weird for a few pay periods? The amounts seem all over the place and it's making it hard to budget.

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Ellie Lopez

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Great question! To check if state taxes were included in the gross up, look at your paystub for the pay period when the relocation hit. The total withholding (federal + state + FICA) should be roughly 35-40% of the gross up amount if state taxes were included properly. With your 6% state rate, you'd expect around 22% federal + 6% state + 7.65% FICA = about 35.65% total withholding on the grossed up relocation income. If the withholding looks too low (closer to 29-30%), they probably only grossed up for federal taxes. You can also ask your payroll department directly - they should be able to tell you exactly which tax rates they used in their calculation. And yes, the weird paycheck amounts are totally normal! When a large relocation payment and gross up hit, it can make that particular paycheck look bizarre because of the withholding calculations. Some payroll systems spread the withholding over multiple pay periods, which can make several paychecks look off. It should normalize once all the relocation-related transactions are processed. If you're concerned, ask payroll if they can give you a breakdown of what's happening each pay period.

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QuantumQuest

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As someone who's helped dozens of coworkers through relocation packages, I want to emphasize something that often gets overlooked: timing matters a lot for your overall tax situation. If your company processes the relocation payment late in the year, you might not have enough remaining paychecks to properly spread out the tax impact through normal withholding. I've seen cases where someone got their relocation gross up in November, and even though the calculation was technically correct, they ended up owing money at tax time because the withholding system couldn't account for their full year tax bracket properly with only a few paychecks left. If you're planning a move, try to time the relocation payment earlier in the year if possible. This gives the payroll system more pay periods to accurately calculate your withholding and helps avoid any surprises. Also, keep all your relocation documentation - receipts, the gross up calculation from HR, everything. You'll want it for your tax preparer and for your own peace of mind when reviewing your W-2. One last tip: if your company offers it, consider asking for a "tax equalization" calculation instead of just gross up. This accounts for the broader tax impacts that others have mentioned here, not just the direct taxes on the relocation benefit itself.

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StarStrider

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This is really helpful advice about timing! I wish I had known this before my move. My relocation payment hit in December and even though my company did the gross up calculation, I still ended up owing about $800 when I filed because the withholding system got confused with only two paychecks left in the year. Can you explain more about "tax equalization" versus regular gross up? My company is pretty small and I don't think our HR person would know about this option, but it sounds like something that could have helped me avoid the surprise tax bill. Is this something I could request for future relocations, or is it mainly offered by larger companies? Also, for anyone reading this who's in a similar situation - definitely keep every single piece of paperwork! I almost missed a deductible moving expense because I didn't have the right receipts organized when my tax preparer asked for them.

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Freya Larsen

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I've been through this exact situation and want to add something that really helped me understand it better. Think of gross up withholding like this: your employer is essentially "buying" you the tax liability that comes with their relocation benefit. When they give you $27k for relocation, that becomes taxable income to you. But since you didn't ask for taxable income - you just needed help moving - they calculate how much extra money they need to give you to cover ALL the taxes on the entire amount (including the extra amount itself). It's like a recursive calculation. Here's what I wish someone had told me: the gross up amount often looks scary on your paystub because it can nearly double the relocation benefit amount. In my case, a $20k relocation became about $35k total income on my W-2 due to the gross up. But that extra $15k wasn't "free money" - it was specifically calculated to pay the taxes on the full $35k. One practical tip: if you're planning to use a tax preparation service, give them a heads up about the relocation gross up when you make your appointment. It's not complicated for them to handle, but it helps if they know to expect it so they can explain exactly how it affected your return.

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Zara Mirza

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This recursive calculation explanation is brilliant! I've been struggling to understand why my $15k relocation showed up as $28k on my W-2 and this finally makes it click. The "buying the tax liability" analogy really helps. Quick question though - when you say it "nearly doubled" your relocation amount, is that normal? I'm wondering if my company calculated mine correctly because my $15k became about $26k total, which seems like a lot but maybe that's right? I'm in the 22% federal bracket plus 5% state tax, so I'm trying to figure out if the math adds up. Also, great tip about alerting the tax preparer! I definitely didn't think to mention it when I booked my appointment and ended up with a very confused looking CPA when he first saw my W-2.

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