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Ethan Scott

Can short-term rental active losses offset W-2 income? Airbnb property depreciation question

Hi everyone, I'm managing a small portfolio of vacation properties (two Airbnbs right now) and I'd estimate I'm putting in around 600-700 hours a year handling everything - bookings, cleaning turnovers, maintenance, guest communication, etc. I'm in the middle of a pretty extensive renovation on one property and about to close on a third vacation rental next month. My accountant mentioned that with cost segregation, my depreciation will likely exceed the total income I'm earning from these rentals this year. What I'm trying to figure out is whether there are limitations on using these losses to offset my regular job income (W-2)? Since all of my properties are short-term rental properties (average stay is 4 nights), would they be considered active and therefore can offset my W-2 income? Any insights would be super helpful as I'm trying to plan for tax season!

Lola Perez

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The short answer is yes, but with some important details you need to understand. Short-term rentals that average less than 7 days per rental can qualify as a "non-rental" business activity rather than traditional passive rental income. Based on what you've described (4-night average stays and 600+ hours of material participation), your Airbnb activities would likely qualify as an active trade or business under IRS rules. When a business activity is considered active and you materially participate (which you clearly do with 600-700 hours), those losses can generally offset your other income sources including W-2 income. The cost segregation study will accelerate your depreciation and can create those paper losses you're anticipating. However, there are still some potential limitations to be aware of. The IRS could potentially apply the "hobby loss" rules if your operation shows losses for multiple years. Also, if your modified adjusted gross income exceeds $150,000, there might be limitations on rental real estate losses even with active participation.

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Ethan Scott

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Thanks for that helpful explanation! I'm definitely running these as a business with the expectation of profit, though this year will be unusual because of the renovations. One follow-up: I've heard something about "real estate professional" status - do I need to qualify for that to take these losses against my W-2, or is the material participation in short-term rentals enough on its own?

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Lola Perez

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The material participation in short-term rentals is likely enough on its own since properties with average stays under 7 days are typically classified as a trade or business rather than traditional rental activities. This classification means you don't necessarily need real estate professional status. Real estate professional status becomes more important for traditional long-term rentals (over 7-day average stays), where you would need to meet those additional requirements (750+ hours in real estate activities, more than half your working time) to treat rental losses as non-passive. Since your Airbnbs fall into the short-term category where you materially participate, you're already in a position where those losses can likely offset your W-2 income.

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After dealing with a similar situation with my vacation rentals, I can share my experience. I was confused about how to classify my Airbnb income and losses until I found https://taxr.ai - it actually helped me properly categorize my properties as active business income vs passive rental income. They analyzed all my rental data, property management activities, and average stay duration. Their system flagged that my properties qualified as active business income since my average stay was 3.5 days and I was spending significant time managing them myself. The documentation they provided was super helpful for backing up my position with specific IRS regulations.

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Riya Sharma

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How exactly does taxr.ai work? Do you upload your documents or something? I have a similar situation with a couple beach rentals but my CPA keeps telling me different things each time I ask about offsetting losses.

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Santiago Diaz

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Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. Did they actually help you take the losses against your regular income? My tax guy always tells me rental losses are passive and can only offset passive income.

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Yes, you upload your rental information, booking calendars, and management activities. The system then analyzes your specific situation against tax regulations. It also examines factors like average length of stay, which is crucial for determining if your rentals qualify as a business activity versus passive rental. They absolutely helped me properly document why my vacation rentals qualified as active business income. The key was proving my average stay was under 7 days AND documenting my material participation. My properties were generating losses due to depreciation, and I was able to use those losses to offset my regular income. The analysis they provided gave me the confidence to take the position, and had documentation ready in case of an audit.

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Santiago Diaz

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Just wanted to follow up - I tried taxr.ai after seeing this thread and it was honestly really helpful for my situation. I own 3 mountain cabins that I rent out on VRBO, and I was never clear if I could offset my regular income with the losses. The system analyzed my average stay length (4.2 days) and my participation hours (around 550 hours annually), and confirmed that my properties qualify as non-rental business activities. Their explanation of the relevant tax code sections helped me understand why I can offset my W-2 income with these losses. My tax preparer was initially hesitant until I showed him the detailed analysis. He's now comfortable taking the position that my short-term rental losses can offset my other income. This is saving me thousands this year with all the renovation costs and depreciation I'm claiming!

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Millie Long

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If you're struggling to document your case with the IRS about these rental losses, I'd suggest using Claimyr to get direct answers from the IRS. I was in a similar situation last year with my vacation properties and couldn't get clear guidance on how to classify them. After weeks of calling the regular IRS number and getting nowhere, I used https://claimyr.com and got through to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes. They confirmed that my short-term rentals (averaging 5-day stays) could be treated as an active business rather than passive rental activity, allowing me to offset my regular income with the losses. There's a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they hold your place in the IRS phone queue and call you when an agent is ready. Saved me hours of hold time and I got the official guidance I needed.

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KaiEsmeralda

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Does this actually work? I've spent literally hours on hold with the IRS trying to get answers about my rental property classification and never get through.

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Debra Bai

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I'm pretty doubtful that any IRS agent would give definitive tax advice on something like this over the phone. They usually just refer you to publications or tell you to consult a tax professional. What specific guidance did they actually provide?

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Millie Long

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Yes, it actually works - they use a system that holds your place in line and calls you when an agent is available. I was skeptical too but it connected me within about 20 minutes when I had been trying for days on my own. The IRS agent I spoke with directed me to the specific sections in Publication 527 and Revenue Procedure 2019-38 that address short-term rentals. While they couldn't give tax advice for my specific situation, they clarified that properties with average stays under 7 days are generally not considered rental activities but instead business activities, which follow different passive activity rules. This was enough confirmation for me to feel confident in my filing position, which my CPA then documented properly.

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Debra Bai

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I need to eat my words and apologize to Profile 9. After struggling with this exact issue for my lakefront properties, I tried Claimyr yesterday out of desperation. Got through to an IRS representative in about 15 minutes when I'd previously wasted hours on hold. The agent walked me through the distinction between rental activities and business activities based on average stay duration. They confirmed that my properties with average stays of 5 days would generally be considered a business rather than rental activity, and directed me to the specific sections of the tax code that address this (Section 469 and the related regulations). This clarification was incredibly valuable as it affects how I'll report my substantial renovation expenses this year. While they emphasized I should work with my tax professional for my specific situation, the guidance on the general rules was exactly what I needed. Thanks for the recommendation!

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Something not mentioned yet - be careful with your cost segregation study and resulting depreciation. If you later sell the properties at a gain, the depreciation will be "recaptured" at a 25% tax rate (assuming current tax laws). So while accelerated depreciation can help your cash flow now by offsetting current income, you might pay for it later when you sell. Also, make sure you keep EXTREMELY detailed records of your time spent on these properties. If you get audited, the IRS will want to see evidence of those 600+ hours. A simple log showing dates, times, and activities performed will save you major headaches.

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Ethan Scott

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That's a really good point about depreciation recapture! I hadn't thought about the longer-term implications. Do you think the cost segregation is still worth it given the time value of money, or would I be better off just using regular depreciation methods? Also - any recommendations for time tracking apps that would work well for documenting rental property management hours?

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Cost segregation is usually still worth it due to the time value of money. Getting tax savings now is typically more valuable than paying somewhat higher taxes years in the future when you sell. Just be aware of it in your long-term planning so it's not a surprise. For tracking time, I use a combination of Google Calendar for scheduled activities (cleanings, maintenance visits, etc.) and a simple spreadsheet where I log everything else daily - guest communications, booking management, research, etc. There are also apps specifically for rental owners like Stessa that have time tracking features. Whatever system you use, the key is consistency - log your activities immediately rather than trying to reconstruct them later.

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Laura Lopez

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One mistake I see a lot - make sure your properties actually qualify as short-term rentals for tax purposes. Its not just about being on Airbnb. The average stay needs to be less than 7 days, and you need to be providing substantial services (similar to hotels). Also remember that material participation for each property is determined separately unless you make a grouping election. If your spending 600 hours combined across all properties, but only 150 on one of them, that specific property might not qualify as active without proper grouping.

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What kind of "substantial services" qualify? I provide linens, toiletries, coffee, and cleaning between guests for my vacation rental. Is that enough?

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Connor Murphy

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Great question about the 7-day average and substantial services! The IRS looks at several factors to determine if you're providing "substantial services" similar to a hotel: - Daily housekeeping or frequent cleaning (you've got this covered) - Providing linens, towels, and toiletries (check) - Concierge-type services like local recommendations, booking activities - Maintenance and repair services - Guest communication and problem resolution Based on what you mentioned (linens, toiletries, coffee, cleaning between guests), you're likely meeting the substantial services test. The key is that these services are provided for the convenience of the occupant, not just basic property maintenance. For the material participation piece that Laura mentioned - you're absolutely right about the grouping election. With 600-700 total hours across multiple properties, Ethan should definitely consider making an election to group his rental activities together. This allows him to meet the material participation test for the entire grouped activity rather than each property individually. The election needs to be made by filing a statement with your tax return, and once made, it's generally binding for future years unless there's a material change in circumstances.

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