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Andre Laurent

Can I use bonus depreciation to offset long term capital gains from multi family sale as a real estate professional?

Hi everyone, I wanted to pick your brains about a tax situation I've got. I just sold a multifamily building that my business partner and I held in an LLC for about 3 years. We walked away with around $340k in profit, and I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to minimize the capital gains hit. Specifically, I'm wondering if purchasing additional real estate properties and utilizing bonus depreciation would help offset these capital gains? I'm still wrapping my head around how bonus depreciation works in this context. If that's not a viable strategy, what other options might I have to reduce the tax impact? Could there be other investments or purchases that would help? For context, I qualify as a real estate professional for tax purposes and operate several LLCs that manage my rental portfolio and real estate business activities. Really appreciate any insights or strategies you might have!

As a frequent contributor to tax discussions, I can shed some light on your situation. Bonus depreciation and capital gains are actually treated differently in the tax code, so they don't directly offset each other. Long-term capital gains from selling your multifamily property are taxed at capital gains rates (typically 15% or 20% depending on your income bracket, plus potentially the 3.8% NIIT). Bonus depreciation, on the other hand, is a form of accelerated depreciation that can offset ordinary income, not capital gains. Your status as a real estate professional is helpful for avoiding passive activity loss limitations, but it doesn't change how capital gains are treated. What you might want to consider instead: 1. A 1031 exchange if you're reinvesting in similar property (though the timeline requirements are strict) 2. Opportunity Zone investments can defer and potentially reduce capital gains taxes 3. Installment sales could spread the gain over multiple years These strategies need to be executed properly with strict timelines, so I'd recommend consulting with a CPA who specializes in real estate immediately.

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Thanks for the helpful response. Quick question - I've heard some conflicting info about whether the property needs to be "like-kind" for a 1031 exchange. If I sold a multifamily, could I exchange into, say, a commercial property? And does having multiple LLCs complicate the 1031 exchange process?

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For a 1031 exchange, the good news is that most real estate held for business or investment qualifies as "like-kind" with other business or investment real estate. So yes, you could exchange from a multifamily into a commercial property without issue. Regarding multiple LLCs, the entity that owned the relinquished property should be the same entity that takes ownership of the replacement property. If your multifamily was owned by LLC A, then LLC A should acquire the new property. This can get complicated with partnerships, so ensure your qualified intermediary and tax professional are guiding you through the specifics of your situation.

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Did it specifically address bonus depreciation rules for real estate professionals? I'm in a similar situation but with commercial property and have been getting contradictory advice about how the recent tax law changes affect bonus depreciation for real estate.

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Ava Kim

Something no one's mentioned yet - cost segregation studies paired with bonus depreciation can be powerful for offsetting ORDINARY income (not your capital gains). Since you're a real estate professional, you're not subject to passive loss limitations. So while it won't help with your immediate capital gains issue, if you're buying more properties, a cost seg study could potentially help offset other income. Just remember bonus depreciation is phasing down - it's 80% for 2023, 60% for 2024, 40% for 2025, and 20% for 2026. For your actual capital gains, the 1031 exchange is probably your best bet if you're reinvesting in more real estate anyway.

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Would cost segregation still make sense with the upcoming bonus depreciation reductions? I've been hesitating because of the phase-out schedule you mentioned.

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Ava Kim

Cost segregation studies still make sense even with the bonus depreciation phase-down. The primary benefit is accelerating depreciation to earlier years - even at reduced bonus depreciation percentages, you're still getting substantial acceleration compared to straight-line depreciation over 27.5 or 39 years. Plus, remember that 5-year property will still qualify for accelerated MACRS depreciation even after bonus depreciation disappears completely. The time value of money makes taking deductions sooner almost always advantageous, especially if you expect your income to increase in future years.

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Has anyone gone the Opportunity Zone route instead of 1031? I'm considering both options for a similar situation (selling a 4-plex with significant gains). From what I understand, Opportunity Zones let you defer capital gains until 2026 but don't require you to buy similar real estate - you could invest in a qualified Opportunity Zone Fund instead. Seems more flexible than 1031 in some ways.

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I went the Opportunity Zone route last year. There are pros and cons. You're right about the flexibility - I sold a rental property and invested in an OZ fund that's developing a mixed-use project. The tax deferral is nice, but remember there's no step-up in basis like there might be with a 1031 you hold until death. And the timeline to invest is shorter - 180 days from sale versus 45 days to identify in a 1031.

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As someone who's navigated similar waters with multiple property sales, I want to add a few practical considerations that might help with your decision-making process. First, regarding the bonus depreciation question - while it won't directly offset your capital gains as others have mentioned, don't overlook the timing strategy. If you're planning to acquire new properties anyway, accelerating depreciation through cost segregation studies on those new acquisitions can help offset other ordinary income, freeing up cash flow that can help with the tax burden from your capital gains. Second, something to consider with your LLC structure - make sure you understand how your partnership agreements affect any 1031 exchange. If you and your business partner have different investment timelines or risk tolerances, this could complicate a like-kind exchange. You might need to restructure or consider a "drop and swap" strategy. One often-overlooked strategy for real estate professionals is the installment sale method. If you can structure seller financing on your next acquisition (even partially), you can spread the gain recognition over multiple years while potentially getting a better overall return than traditional financing. Given the complexity of your situation with multiple LLCs and real estate professional status, I'd strongly recommend getting a second opinion from a tax professional who specializes in real estate before making any final decisions. The strategies mentioned here all have strict timing requirements and potential pitfalls.

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive analysis I was hoping to see! The installment sale method is something I hadn't fully considered, especially for someone in my situation. Quick question - when you mention "drop and swap" strategy for the LLC structure, could you elaborate on how that would work practically? My business partner and I do have different risk tolerances, so this might be exactly what we need to explore. Also, do you know if there are any specific requirements about how much seller financing needs to be involved to make the installment method worthwhile?

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Great question about the "drop and swap" strategy! This involves the LLC distributing the property to the individual partners before the sale, then each partner can do their own separate 1031 exchange. This way, you and your business partner can pursue different investment strategies and timelines without being tied to each other's decisions. However, there are some important caveats: the distribution needs to happen well before the sale (typically at least 2 years to avoid IRS scrutiny), and you'll need to make sure the distribution doesn't trigger any immediate tax consequences. The timing is crucial and it requires careful planning with your tax advisor. Regarding installment sales, there's no minimum percentage required for seller financing, but practically speaking, you want enough to make the tax deferral meaningful. Even 20-30% seller financing can spread a significant portion of the gain over multiple years. The key is that you only recognize gain proportionally as you receive payments. One thing to watch out for - if you're planning to do cost segregation studies on new properties, the installment method might limit some of the timing benefits since you'll be recognizing gains over multiple years anyway. Your tax professional can help you model different scenarios to see which combination of strategies works best for your specific situation.

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Great discussion here! As someone who's dealt with similar capital gains situations, I wanted to add a perspective that might be helpful. While everyone's covered the main strategies well (1031 exchanges, Opportunity Zones, etc.), there's one angle worth considering given your real estate professional status: the timing of when you recognize income versus deductions across your various LLCs. Since you're not subject to passive activity limitations, you have more flexibility in managing the timing of income and deductions across your portfolio. If you're acquiring new properties, you could potentially accelerate certain deductible expenses (like repairs, improvements that don't qualify for capitalization, or professional services) into the same tax year as your capital gains recognition. Also, don't forget about the Section 199A QBI deduction - as a real estate professional, your rental activities should qualify for the 20% deduction, which can help offset some of the overall tax impact even if it doesn't directly reduce the capital gains. One last thought: if you do go the 1031 route, consider whether a reverse exchange might give you more flexibility. It's more complex but allows you to acquire the replacement property first, which can be advantageous in competitive markets where good properties move quickly. The key is running the numbers on all these strategies with your actual figures to see which combination gives you the best after-tax result.

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This is really helpful context about timing strategies across multiple LLCs! I'm curious about the reverse 1031 exchange you mentioned - how much more complex and expensive does that typically make the process? And are there any specific situations where it's particularly advantageous beyond just competitive markets? I'm wondering if it might help with some of the coordination challenges between business partners that others have mentioned. Also, regarding the Section 199A QBI deduction, do you know if there are any limitations on how that interacts with capital gains from property sales? I want to make sure I'm not missing any opportunities to maximize that 20% deduction alongside whatever strategy I choose for the capital gains.

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