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Lucy Lam

Can I submit Form 5329 separately from my tax return filing?

I'm hitting a roadblock with my taxes right now and wondering if anyone knows the answer. I've been using TurboTax to do my taxes this year and it's completely messing up my Form 5329. I entered all my information about my IRA withdrawal and selected the option for a waiver (since I had some medical expenses that should qualify me), but when I look at the preview of Form 5329, it's showing up weird and incomplete. The software seems to be cutting off some fields and not calculating things right. At this point, I'm thinking about just filing my regular tax return through TurboTax and then submitting Form 5329 separately on paper. Is this even allowed? Can I submit Form 5329 by itself after I've e-filed my main return? I don't want to delay my refund by doing my whole return on paper just because of this one form issue. I've already waited too long to file and don't want to mess this up more. Any advice would be really appreciated!

Aidan Hudson

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You absolutely can file Form 5329 separately from your tax return! This is actually pretty common when tax software isn't handling it correctly. If you decide to submit Form 5329 separately, make sure you complete the identification section at the top of the form with your name, address, and SSN. You'll also need to sign and date the form - this is important because when submitted separately, Form 5329 is considered its own tax return. Also, if you're requesting a waiver of the 10% early distribution penalty due to medical expenses, make sure you write "Medical Expenses" in the margin next to the relevant line. When mailing it in, I recommend sending it via certified mail so you have proof of when you submitted it. The form should be mailed to the same IRS service center where you would normally file a paper return.

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Zoe Wang

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Thanks for the info! Do I need to include any kind of payment with the separate Form 5329 if I end up owing additional tax because of the early withdrawal? And does filing it separately mean I have to wait longer for my refund from my regular return?

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Aidan Hudson

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If you owe additional tax from the Form 5329, you should include payment with the form. You can use Form 1040-V (Payment Voucher) to submit the payment, and make sure to note on the voucher that it's for Form 5329. Your regular tax return refund shouldn't be delayed just because you're filing Form 5329 separately. The IRS processes them as two different items, so you should still get your regular refund on schedule.

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Steven Adams

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Did they tell you exactly what to write in the margin for your exception? I've heard different things about whether you need to attach documentation proving your qualifying education expenses or if you just need to keep that for your records.

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Benjamin Kim

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Another option you might want to consider - check if any other tax software handles Form 5329 better. I had issues with TurboTax last year, but switched to TaxSlayer which actually handled my 5329 with no problems (I had an early 401k withdrawal for a first-time home purchase). Might be easier than filing separately if you haven't gone too far with TurboTax yet.

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TaxSlayer is good but beware that it STILL has issues with some 5329 scenarios. Last year it didn't properly handle my SEPP (Substantially Equal Periodic Payments) exception correctly and I had to go back and fix it. Have u had any experience with how the paid version of FreeTaxUSA handles 5329?

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Benjamin Kim

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I haven't personally used FreeTaxUSA for Form 5329, but I did compare several options before settling on TaxSlayer. The key is making sure the software specifically mentions support for your particular exception type on Form 5329. For SEPP distributions, you're right that even TaxSlayer has limitations. Most consumer tax software struggles with the more complex scenarios on Form 5329, which is why so many people end up filing it separately. If you're doing SEPP distributions, you might want to consult with a tax professional who specializes in retirement distributions.

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One thing to watch out for if you file form 5329 separately - make SURE you include your SSN at the top of the form! I filed mine separately last year and didn't notice that my printer cut off part of the SSN when it printed. The IRS sent me a notice saying they couldn't process my form because they couldn't identify who it belonged to. Ended up having to refile and pay interest on the penalty amount. Such a stupid mistake but cost me like $75 extra.

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Sarah Ali

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I made an even worse mistake! I filed Form 5329 separately but forgot to SIGN IT. IRS doesn't consider it a valid return without signature, so they didn't process it at all and hit me with the full 10% penalty. When I called to explain, they said I needed to file an amended return to fix it. Complete nightmare.

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Javier Torres

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I went through this exact same situation two years ago with H&R Block's software butchering my Form 5329 for a hardship withdrawal. You can definitely file Form 5329 separately - it's totally legitimate and the IRS processes thousands of these every year. A few critical things based on my experience: First, triple-check that ALL the identification info is complete and legible before mailing - your name, address, and especially your SSN need to be crystal clear. Second, don't forget to sign and date it! When filed separately, Form 5329 is considered its own return and must be signed. Third, if you're claiming an exception (like for medical expenses), write the exception type clearly in the margin next to the relevant line. I'd also strongly recommend sending it certified mail with return receipt so you have proof of delivery. The IRS can be slow processing paper forms, and having that receipt saved me when they initially claimed they never received mine. Your main return refund should process normally - filing the 5329 separately won't delay it. Just make sure you keep copies of everything and follow up in a few weeks to confirm it was received and processed correctly.

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Sean O'Connor

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the timing - if I e-file my main return today and then mail the Form 5329 separately, will the IRS get confused about why I'm filing two different things? Should I wait until my main return is processed first, or can I send the 5329 right away? I'm worried about creating some kind of processing conflict between the two filings.

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