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Mei Chen

Can I deduct monthly fees paid to trading group for crypto/stock/NFT research on my taxes?

So I've been part of this trading discord where everyone pools their knowledge on various trades (crypto/NFTs/stocks). The group has members who actively research potential profitable opportunities and share the info. I'm paying a pretty substantial subscription fee (around $400 per month) to be part of this trading group. I'm wondering if this expense qualifies as a tax deduction on my personal tax return? For context, during my 4-month membership so far, I've executed approximately 1100 trades across different platforms. Based on my trading frequency, I'd definitely consider myself an active trader rather than a long-term investor. Does anyone know if research/information fees like this are deductible given my trading volume? Would it make a difference if I classified myself as a trader vs investor on my taxes?

This is actually a really good question! The deductibility depends on how your trading activity is classified for tax purposes. If you qualify as a "trader" in the eyes of the IRS (which sounds possible given your 1100 transactions in 4 months), you might be able to deduct these subscription fees as ordinary business expenses. The IRS looks at factors like trading frequency, holding periods, time dedicated to trading, and whether you depend on trading income. You'd want to consider making what's called a Section 475(f) election, also known as the "mark-to-market" election, which formally classifies you as a trader for tax purposes. This would potentially allow you to deduct these research costs as business expenses on Schedule C. Without this election, if you're classified as an investor, these expenses would be considered investment expenses which are no longer deductible as miscellaneous itemized deductions after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

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Mei Chen

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Thanks for the detailed response! I've never heard of the Section 475(f) election before. Is there a deadline for making that election for the 2024 tax year that I need to worry about? Also, would making this election affect how my actual trading profits and losses are taxed?

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For the 2024 tax year, you would have needed to make the Section 475(f) election by April 15, 2024 (or March 15 for entities). If you haven't made it yet, you unfortunately can't apply it to this tax year, but could consider it for next year. Making this election definitely changes how your profits and losses are taxed. Under mark-to-market, all securities are treated as if they were sold on the last day of the tax year at fair market value, recognizing unrealized gains/losses. You also get to treat gains and losses as ordinary rather than capital, which means losses aren't subject to the $3,000 capital loss limitation against ordinary income.

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Amara Okonkwo

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I was in almost the exact same situation last year. I paid around $350/month for a premium trading group that provided crypto and stock analysis. I was making tons of trades and wasn't sure how to handle the subscription costs. I ended up using https://taxr.ai to analyze my trading history and subscription expenses. They have this document analysis tool that reviewed my trading patterns and subscription costs and determined I qualified as a trader rather than investor. I was able to upload my trading statements and subscription receipts, and they organized everything to maximize my deductions. The most helpful part was that they clearly broke down why these research costs were deductible in my specific situation and how to document it properly. Saved me a ton of headache trying to figure out all the trader vs investor rules.

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How long did it take them to analyze everything? I made over 2000 crypto trades last year and I'm paying for two different research services. Would they be able to handle that many transactions?

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I'm a bit skeptical. Did you end up getting audited after claiming those deductions? I heard the IRS is really strict about trader vs investor classification, especially with crypto.

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Amara Okonkwo

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It took them about 2 days to process everything. They have some automated system that categorizes and analyzes trading patterns. They could definitely handle 2000 trades - I had nearly 1500 myself across different platforms. I didn't get audited, but they did help me understand exactly how to document everything properly to support the trader classification. The key was showing consistent trading frequency, short holding periods, and how much time I spent on trading activities. They even provided guidance on how to track my time spent researching and executing trades going forward.

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Just wanted to follow up after using taxr.ai for my situation with research subscription fees. It was actually really helpful - I uploaded my trading history and subscription receipts for the two research services I use. They confirmed I qualified as a trader based on my volume and pattern of trading (the 2000+ trades definitely helped my case). The system organized all my documentation in a way that clearly shows why the research subscriptions were ordinary and necessary for my trading business. They even suggested I keep a simple trading journal to track hours spent on research and trading to strengthen my case as a trader rather than investor. Already implemented that suggestion and it's making tax planning so much easier this year!

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Dylan Hughes

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If you're having trouble getting clear answers about whether you qualify as a trader for tax purposes, I'd recommend talking directly to an IRS agent. I was in a similar situation with trading group subscription fees. After spending HOURS trying to get through to the IRS (seriously, I tried for days), I finally discovered https://claimyr.com and used their service. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c They got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes. The agent was able to walk me through exactly what documentation I'd need to support claiming the trading group fees as business expenses. Having that direct guidance from the IRS gave me confidence in how I was filing.

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NightOwl42

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How exactly does this work? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS. Do they just keep calling for you or something?

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Yeah right. No way they get you through to the IRS that fast. I've been trying to reach someone about my tax situation for weeks. If this actually worked, everyone would be using it.

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Dylan Hughes

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They use a system that monitors the IRS phone lines and alerts you when they've secured a place in line. Basically, they do the waiting for you. When they're about to connect with an agent, you get a call to join the conversation. It's completely legitimate - they don't pretend to be you or anything sketchy. They just solve the problem of waiting on hold forever. The service connects you directly with the IRS agent so you can ask your specific questions.

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I need to apologize for being skeptical earlier. After getting frustrated with more waiting on hold with the IRS, I decided to try Claimyr. This thing actually works! I was connected to an IRS agent in about 15 minutes. I specifically asked about deducting trading research subscriptions, and the agent walked me through the criteria for qualifying as a trader versus investor. The agent confirmed that if I meet the trader status requirements (regular and continuous trading, seeking profit from short-term market swings rather than dividends/appreciation), then research subscriptions can be deductible business expenses on Schedule C. They also explained exactly what documentation I should keep to support these deductions. Definitely worth it just to get a clear answer directly from the IRS rather than stressing about whether I'm interpreting the tax code correctly!

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Something nobody mentioned yet - you might want to look into setting up an LLC for your trading activities. I did that last year and it made claiming these types of expenses much cleaner. I pay about $500/month for various trading research services and having them run through my trading LLC makes it very clear these are business expenses. Just make sure you keep your trading activity separate from your personal investments if you go this route.

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Mei Chen

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I hadn't considered setting up an LLC. Is the process complicated? And does it actually increase the likelihood that I can deduct these expenses, or is it more about creating cleaner documentation?

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Setting up an LLC is pretty straightforward - in most states you can do it online in about 30 minutes. Costs vary by state but typically range from $50-300 for the initial filing. It doesn't necessarily increase your ability to deduct expenses (you still need to qualify as a trader vs investor), but it creates a much cleaner separation between your trading business and personal finances. This makes it easier to document business expenses and can provide liability protection too. The main benefit is that it signals to the IRS that you're treating your trading as a business, not just a hobby. Just remember you'll need to file Schedule C or potentially an 1120-S if you elect S-Corp status. I'd recommend talking to a tax professional who specializes in traders before setting it up.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Quick tip - save all your subscription receipts and take screenshots of the research they provide that you actually use for trades. I got audited last year and having this documentation saved me. The IRS questioned my trading subscription deductions specifically. Being able to show the direct connection between the research I paid for and actual trades I made based on that info was crucial. They wanted to see that the expense was "ordinary and necessary" for my trading activity.

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Ava Thompson

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This is great advice. Do you literally screenshot every research report you use? That seems like a ton of documentation to maintain. Is there a more efficient system you use?

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Jamal Harris

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Be very careful about the trading group deduction if you're dealing with crypto. The IRS has been extra scrutinous about crypto-related deductions lately, especially for subscription services that provide trading signals or research. I'd strongly recommend keeping detailed records of: 1. Every trade you made based on the group's research (with timestamps) 2. Screenshots or downloads of the specific research that influenced each trade 3. A trading journal documenting hours spent analyzing the group's research 4. Evidence that you're truly operating as a trader (regular income from trading, substantial time commitment, etc.) The $400/month subscription is substantial enough that it could trigger additional IRS attention if audited. Make sure you can demonstrate that this expense directly contributed to your trading profits and wasn't just general investment advice. Also consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in trader tax status before filing. The rules around crypto trading classification are still evolving and you want to make sure you're positioning everything correctly from the start.

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Amaya Watson

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This is excellent advice about the documentation requirements for crypto trading deductions. I've been hesitant to claim my trading group subscriptions specifically because of the crypto component. One question - when you mention keeping records of trades based on the group's research, how granular do you need to get? For example, if the group provides general market analysis that influences my overall strategy rather than specific "buy XYZ coin now" signals, is that harder to document as a direct connection? I'm also curious about the trading journal aspect. Are there any specific formats or requirements the IRS expects for documenting time spent on research activities, or is a simple spreadsheet with dates/hours sufficient?

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