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Omar Farouk

Can I claim my mom with dementia as a dependent if I'm the annuity owner but she's the annuitant?

I made a serious mistake last year that's coming back to haunt me tax-wise. My mother has dementia and I've been managing her finances. She receives monthly payments from a fixed annuity that continues until her death. In December 2022, I called the annuity company to get access to her account, and they suggested I could transfer ownership to myself while keeping her as the annuitant who receives the payments. Fast forward to now, and I've received a 1099-R showing all the annuity income as MY taxable income, even though every payment goes directly into her bank account! She has virtually no tax liability while I'm in a much higher bracket, so this means I'm looking at paying thousands in additional taxes. I'm obviously transferring ownership back to her, but the company says there's nothing that can be done about 2023 - I'll have to pay taxes on this income. Since these payments are appearing as my income, I'm wondering if I can count it as support I'm providing for her care? Beyond the annuity, I pay a significant portion of her monthly expenses to keep her in her home. She receives Medicaid with an aide for part of the day, but I still cover some of her rent and other costs even after her Social Security and this annuity income. If I can include the annuity as support I'm providing, the total might be enough to claim her as a dependent. Is there anything else I could do to reduce this unexpected tax burden? I'm currently looking for a good tax professional since I've always handled my taxes myself, but this situation is beyond what I'm comfortable figuring out on my own.

CosmicCadet

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This is actually a common situation with annuities and family members with cognitive issues. Let me break this down for you: The annuity company is correctly reporting the income to you as the owner - that's how annuities work for tax purposes. The owner is responsible for the tax liability regardless of who receives the payments as the annuitant. For dependency purposes, you might be able to claim your mother as a qualifying relative if you meet several tests. The support test requires you to provide more than half of her support for the year. The good news is that you can include the value of the annuity payments in calculating your support contribution since you're legally the owner and being taxed on that income. You'll need to calculate the total cost of her support (housing, food, medical expenses, clothing, etc.) and determine if what you pay (including the annuity payments) exceeds 50% of that total. Also, her gross income (not counting tax-exempt income like certain Medicaid benefits) must be less than $4,700 for 2023. Given your situation, it does sound like you might qualify to claim her as a dependent, which would give you a dependency exemption and potentially qualify you for other benefits like the Credit for Other Dependents.

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Omar Farouk

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Thanks for that thorough explanation. So even though the annuity payments go directly to her account, I can count those as part of my support since I'm the one paying taxes on them? Can you clarify how the gross income test works with Social Security? She gets monthly Social Security payments - would that count toward the $4,700 limit? And does the annuity count toward her gross income even though it's being reported on my taxes?

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CosmicCadet

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Yes, since you're the legal owner of the annuity and being taxed on that income, you can include those payments as part of your support contribution even though they're deposited directly to her account. For the gross income test, Social Security benefits are treated differently. If her Social Security benefits plus other income are low enough that the benefits aren't taxable to her, then they don't count toward the $4,700 gross income limit. As for the annuity, since it's being reported on your tax return and not hers, it wouldn't count toward her gross income for the dependency test. This is actually a rare situation where being taxed on the income works in your favor for dependency purposes.

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Chloe Harris

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Diego Mendoza

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Did it actually work for dependency situations? I'm dealing with my father-in-law's finances and the 1099 nightmare that came with it. Could your aunt qualify as your dependent even with her own income sources? And how much documentation did you need to provide?

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I'm skeptical about these online services. How did they handle the annuity situation specifically? My mom has both an annuity and a pension, and I'm trying to figure out if I should transfer anything into my name for easier management since she's in a memory care facility.

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Chloe Harris

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It worked perfectly for dependency situations. The service helped me understand that even though my aunt had Social Security income, I could still claim her as a dependent because her gross income (excluding Social Security) was under the threshold. I just needed to document that I provided more than half her total support. For the annuity specifically, they explained exactly how ownership vs. annuitant status affects tax reporting and how to properly document this for dependency purposes. They actually cautioned against transferring ownership of income-producing assets unless absolutely necessary for management purposes, precisely because of the tax consequences the original poster is experiencing. They suggested using a Power of Attorney instead which would give you management control without the tax implications.

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Diego Mendoza

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Just wanted to follow up - I tried taxr.ai with my father-in-law's situation and it was exactly what I needed! I uploaded his 1099-R, my documentation of expenses I pay for him, and his Medicaid approval letter. The analysis showed I could claim him as a dependent even though I'm not the owner of his annuity (different from OP's situation). The system also flagged that I could claim some of his medical expenses on my Schedule A since I'm paying them, even if I couldn't claim him as a dependent. Turns out I was paying enough of his expenses to meet the support test, which I wouldn't have realized without going through their guided questions. The documentation they provided will be super helpful if I ever get audited. Definitely worth checking out for anyone dealing with elder care tax questions!

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Sean Flanagan

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Zara Shah

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How does this even work? The IRS phone lines are basically impossible to get through. Is this some kind of paid priority service? I've been trying to reach someone about a similar issue for weeks.

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NebulaNomad

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Sounds fishy to me. The IRS doesn't offer any way to skip the line like that. And even if you get through, the agents often give conflicting information depending on who you talk to. I'd rather trust a qualified CPA than random IRS phone support.

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Sean Flanagan

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It's not a priority line or anything sketchy - it's just an automated system that handles the calling and waiting for you. It basically sits on hold so you don't have to, then calls you when it reaches a human. I was skeptical too until I tried it. The value wasn't just in getting through, but in being able to specifically ask about my situation with the annuity and dependency status. I got the agent's ID number and made notes about the conversation for my records. You're right that different agents can sometimes give different answers, but having something documented from an actual IRS representative gave me peace of mind that I was filing correctly.

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NebulaNomad

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I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment earlier, I decided to try it anyway since I was desperate to resolve my tax question about my mother's care expenses. To my surprise, I got through to an IRS representative in about 20 minutes after trying unsuccessfully for weeks on my own. The agent confirmed that I could include the value of an annuity that was in my name (but paying to my mother) as part of my support calculation for claiming her as a dependent. They also walked me through exactly how to document everything in case of an audit. Just having clear direction from an official source was worth it. They even helped me understand how to handle the situation for next year when I plan to transfer the annuity back to her name with me as the power of attorney instead.

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Luca Ferrari

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - you should look into whether you qualify for the Child and Dependent Care Credit rather than just the dependency exemption. If your mom meets the requirements for being your dependent due to inability to care for herself (which sounds likely given the dementia), AND you're working or looking for work, some of the costs you're paying could qualify for this credit. It won't help with the annuity tax hit directly, but it might offset some of the increased tax burden if you're paying for her care so you can work.

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Omar Farouk

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That's really interesting! I am working full-time while managing her care. Would the aide that Medicaid provides qualify for this credit? Or would it only be additional care I pay for out of pocket? I do sometimes hire additional evening help when the Medicaid aide isn't there.

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Luca Ferrari

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Only the care expenses that you pay for out of pocket would qualify, not the portion covered by Medicaid. The evening help you mentioned would definitely count as long as you need that care so you can work. There are some specific requirements - you'll need the care provider's tax ID or Social Security number, and you'll have to file Form 2441 with your return. The credit is calculated based on your income and has a maximum amount of qualifying expenses ($3,000 for one qualifying person in 2023). It's a non-refundable credit, so it can reduce your tax to zero but won't generate a refund beyond that.

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Nia Wilson

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Don't forget about the Medical Expense deduction! If you're itemizing deductions and paying medical expenses for someone who qualifies as your dependent (which sounds like your mom would), you can deduct those expenses that exceed 7.5% of your AGI. This could include portions of her assisted living costs that are for medical care, prescription medications, medical equipment, etc.

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This is huge. My mother-in-law was in memory care last year and we were able to deduct about 60% of the facility costs as medical expenses based on documentation from the facility. Made a big difference on our taxes.

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