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Can I claim American Opportunity Tax Credit for masters degree after foreign undergrad?

I've been searching everywhere and getting nowhere with this question. So I recently moved to the US and started my master's degree program here last fall. Here's my situation: I finished my bachelor's degree back in 2020 in Canada where I was living at the time (I wasn't a US resident then). Now I'm trying to figure out if I can claim the American Opportunity Tax Credit (AOTC) for my master's program expenses. Everyone I've asked seems unsure about whether the AOTC applies if your undergrad was completed in another country. Also, I'm wondering about retroactive claims - if I completed my Canadian bachelor's degree in 2020, could I have claimed the AOTC on my 2020 US tax return for those expenses? I'm pretty new to the US tax system and trying to make sure I don't miss out on any education credits I might be eligible for. Any insights would be greatly appreciated! The IRS website is confusing me more than helping.

Olivia Kay

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The American Opportunity Tax Credit (AOTC) has some specific requirements that might affect your situation. First, the AOTC is generally only available for the first four years of post-secondary education - what we call undergraduate education. Master's degrees are considered beyond those first four years, so typically wouldn't qualify regardless of where you did your undergrad. For your second question, you couldn't claim the AOTC for your Canadian undergrad expenses on a US tax return if you weren't a US resident at that time. You must be a US citizen, resident alien, or have filed a joint return with a US citizen/resident to claim the credit. You might want to look into the Lifetime Learning Credit instead, which doesn't have the "first four years" limitation. It's worth up to $2,000 per tax return and applies to graduate courses. The Lifetime Learning Credit would be more appropriate for your master's degree expenses.

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Joshua Hellan

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But wait, I thought there was something about academic years not calendar years? Like if you only used the AOTC for 3 years during undergrad, couldn't you use the 4th year for the first year of grad school? Or am I totally misunderstanding how this works?

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Olivia Kay

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The AOTC is specifically for the first four academic years of post-secondary education, not calendar years. If someone completed a full four-year undergraduate program (regardless of where), they would have used their eligibility even if they never claimed the credit. If someone only completed three years of undergraduate education and then started graduate school, they could potentially use their remaining "fourth year" eligibility for the first year of graduate school. However, in your case, since you completed a full bachelor's degree, you've already completed four academic years of post-secondary education, making you ineligible for the AOTC for your master's program.

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Jibriel Kohn

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Does it work with international transcripts too? I did my undergrad in Singapore but now I'm doing my master's in the US. The IRS forms are so confusing about international education.

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Jibriel Kohn

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James Johnson

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So how does this actually work? Do they have some special access to the IRS or something? I've been trying to get through about my education credits for weeks and keep getting disconnected.

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Mia Green

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Yeah right. There's no way to "skip the line" with the IRS. They probably just use auto-dialers which is why the IRS phone lines are jammed in the first place. I'll believe it when I see it.

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James Johnson

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Mia Green

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Emma Bianchi

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Just to add another perspective - I went through this exact situation. Did my undergrad in Brazil, then came to US for masters. My tax preparer told me that since the AOTC is for the "first 4 years of postsecondary education" regardless of where you did them, I couldn't claim it for my masters. But I was able to claim the Lifetime Learning Credit! It's a smaller credit (20% of up to $10,000 in qualified expenses, so max $2,000) but it helped offset some of my tuition costs. And unlike the AOTC, there's no limit on how many years you can claim it.

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Do you need specific forms from your school to claim the Lifetime Learning Credit? My university gave me a 1098-T but it doesn't show all the details I think I need.

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Emma Bianchi

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Yes, you should receive Form 1098-T from your US university which shows your qualified education expenses. Sometimes it doesn't include everything that's actually eligible though! For example, my form didn't include my required course materials, but those are qualified expenses I could add. If you're missing information on your 1098-T, contact your university's bursar or financial office - they can usually provide an itemized statement of your expenses. Keep receipts for things like textbooks and required supplies too, since those count but might not appear on your 1098-T.

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Has anyone found a good tax software that handles this situation well? I tried using [popular tax software] and it kept pushing me toward claiming AOTC even though I know I'm not eligible because I completed my undergrad in Germany before moving to the US for my master's.

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Charlie Yang

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I used TaxAct last year and it asked clear questions about my education history that helped determine I was only eligible for Lifetime Learning Credit. It specifically asked if I had completed 4 years of post-secondary education before, not just if I had claimed AOTC before.

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Thanks for the recommendation! I'll check out TaxAct. The software I was using just kept asking if I'd claimed AOTC for 4 years already, not whether I'd completed 4 years of college, which was confusing since I never claimed it before (wasn't in US during undergrad).

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