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Avoiding Taxes on PayPal Goods and Services 1099k for Used Items Selling at a Loss

I've been buying and selling collectibles as a side hobby through different forums for years. Recently, I've been strictly using F&F on PayPal because I heard they dropped the reporting threshold to $600 for Goods & Services payments, and I didn't want the tax headache. Problem is, more and more buyers are insisting on G&S for the buyer protection, and I'm losing potential sales by refusing. I'm 99% sure I'm actually losing money overall on these transactions since I'm buying used items at conventions and from other collectors, then selling them when I need to make space or change my collection focus. My big question: How do I properly document that these PayPal 1099k sales aren't actually taxable income since I'm selling at a loss? The tricky part is that many of my purchases are from other hobbyists through forums using PayPal or cash at meetups, so I don't have formal store receipts for most items. Does anyone have a sample of what documentation looks like when reporting that the 1099k amount is actually a loss? Is there a specific form? And what's the best way to track my purchase/sale prices going forward to avoid paying taxes on money I'm not actually making?

Harper Hill

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This is a common issue for collectors! What you're dealing with is basically the same as any other small-scale reselling activity. The 1099-K just reports the gross payments you received - it doesn't automatically mean you owe taxes on that amount. You'll need to file Schedule C with your taxes to report both your income AND expenses. Your taxable income is only the profit (if any), not the gross sales amount. If you're truly selling at a loss overall, you shouldn't owe any taxes on these transactions. For documentation, start keeping a spreadsheet right now with columns for: Item description, purchase date, purchase price, any additional costs (shipping, fees), sale date, sale price, and net profit/loss. Take photos of items with any identifying features when you buy them. For past purchases without receipts, gather whatever evidence you have - PayPal transaction history, forum messages discussing prices, bank statements showing withdrawals. The more documentation you can compile, the better position you'll be in if questioned.

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Caden Nguyen

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What happens if they've been doing this for years without tracking anything? My husband collects vintage video games and sometimes sells duplicates or games he's finished. We've never tracked any of it and now I'm worried we're going to get audited.

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Harper Hill

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For past transactions without tracking, start by going through your PayPal history, email confirmations, bank statements, or forum messages to reconstruct what you can. Even if records aren't perfect, showing a good-faith effort to track things now is important. If an audit does happen, the IRS is generally looking for reasonable documentation, not perfect records. They understand that casual sellers may not have kept detailed books. Just be honest and provide whatever information you can gather to show your actual profit/loss situation.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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Does this work for Venmo transactions too? I sell vintage clothes and alternate between platforms depending on what the buyer prefers.

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Ashley Adams

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I'm a bit skeptical... how does it know what you originally paid for items years ago if you don't input that information yourself? Seems like it would still require you to have those records somewhere.

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Avery Flores

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Yes, it works with Venmo too! It can connect to multiple payment platforms and consolidate everything into one report. Really helpful if you're using different methods for different buyers. As for knowing what you paid years ago, you're right that it can't magically know your purchase prices if you don't have records. But it has a smart estimation tool based on fair market value research for common collectibles, and you can adjust/confirm these estimates. It also helps you organize old email receipts, PayPal history, and bank statements to find evidence of purchases you might have forgotten about.

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Michael Adams

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Don't forget that PayPal fees and shipping costs are deductible expenses too! When I sell my vintage toys, I keep a detailed spreadsheet that includes: - Original purchase price (or estimated value if bought long ago) - PayPal G&S fees paid - Shipping materials cost - Postage paid - Any platform fees All these reduce your taxable income. I was freaking out when I got a 1099-K showing $4,800 in transactions, but after documenting all my costs and the original purchase prices, I actually showed a $230 loss on my hobby for the year.

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Natalie Wang

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Does anyone know if we need to save actual shipping receipts or is a PayPal transaction showing the shipping label purchase enough?

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Michael Adams

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The PayPal transaction showing the shipping label purchase is generally sufficient as your proof. It shows the date, amount, and purpose of the expense which is what you need for documentation. I still recommend taking screenshots or saving PDFs of these transactions though, since PayPal only keeps your transaction history accessible for a limited time. I learned this the hard way when trying to document some older sales!

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Noah Torres

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im in kinda same boat with my sneaker reselling but sometimes i make profit sometimes loss. my accountant told me since its not just a hobby but im trying to make profit overall, i need to file schedule C even for the years i lose money. if u report losses too many years in a row irs might say its just a hobby not a business and disallow the losses. thats what happened to my cousin with his baseball card collection

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Samantha Hall

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This is an important distinction! The "hobby loss rule" means you can't deduct losses from a hobby against other income. If the IRS determines your activity is a hobby rather than a business, you still report the income but can only deduct expenses up to the amount of income (not below zero).

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QuantumQuest

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Great thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my Pokemon card collection. One thing I learned from my CPA is that you can use the "fair market value" method for establishing your cost basis on items you bought years ago without receipts. For example, if you sold a card in 2024 that you bought at a convention in 2019, you can research what that card was selling for in 2019 using sites like eBay sold listings, price guides, or auction records from that time period. The IRS accepts this as reasonable documentation as long as you're consistent and not inflating values. I've been going back through old forum posts and Facebook groups where people discussed prices they paid for items - sometimes that's the best evidence you can find. It's tedious work but worth it when you're looking at a big 1099-K amount that doesn't reflect your actual profit. Also remember that if you're consistently losing money over multiple years, you might want to treat it as a hobby rather than a business to avoid the Schedule C complications that Noah mentioned. Just depends on your specific situation and intent.

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Admin_Masters

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This is really helpful advice about using fair market value research! I'm new to dealing with 1099-K issues and have been stressed about not having receipts for older purchases. Question though - when you say "consistent" with values, does that mean I need to use the same method (like eBay sold listings) for all items, or just that I can't cherry-pick the lowest prices I can find? Also, how far back can you reasonably go with this approach? Some of my collectibles were purchased 5+ years ago when the market was very different.

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