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Aisha Khan

Are capital losses from a hedge fund LP considered passive losses if I'm a limited partner?

I invested in a hedge fund as a limited partner last year and I'm trying to figure out how to report my losses on my taxes. The fund didn't perform well and I ended up with some capital losses. Since I'm just a limited partner and don't actively participate in any of the fund's trading decisions or operations, I'm wondering if these capital losses would be considered passive losses? I don't materially participate in the hedge fund at all - basically just put money in and get statements. Does that automatically make any losses I incur through the hedge fund passive losses for tax purposes? This impacts how I can offset them against other income on my tax return so I really need to understand the classification correctly.

Ethan Taylor

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This is actually an important distinction. Capital losses from a hedge fund LP investment are generally NOT considered passive losses, even though you're a limited partner without material participation. The key is to understand that passive activity rules under IRC Section 469 don't apply to portfolio income or loss, which includes capital gains and losses from investment activities. Your hedge fund LP investment would typically generate portfolio income/losses rather than passive activity income/losses. Your capital losses from the hedge fund should be reported as investment capital losses on Schedule D, not as passive losses on Form 8582. These capital losses can offset capital gains plus up to $3,000 of ordinary income per year, with any excess carried forward to future tax years.

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Yuki Ito

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Wait, I'm confused because I thought anything where you don't materially participate is automatically passive? My accountant told me all my limited partnership investments are passive activities. Are hedge funds treated differently than other LPs?

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Ethan Taylor

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That's a common misunderstanding. While it's true that limited partnership interests are often passive activities when you don't materially participate, investment activities that produce portfolio income are specifically excluded from passive activity rules. The tax code distinguishes between operating businesses and investment activities. A hedge fund is primarily engaged in trading securities, which generates portfolio income/loss, not income from a trade or business in which passive activity rules would apply. The IRS treats investment income/losses (interest, dividends, capital gains/losses) as portfolio income, which is neither active nor passive - it's a third category.

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Does taxr.ai handle complicated K-1s with both domestic and foreign investments? My hedge fund has investments across several countries and the K-1 is insanely detailed with different types of income.

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QuantumQuasar

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I'm a bit skeptical about tax tools handling partnership stuff correctly. How does it know when something is "portfolio" vs "passive" if it's not explicitly labeled on the K-1? My hedge fund K-1 just has a jumble of codes and boxes.

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Carmen Lopez

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Mei Lin

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Something else to consider - check if your hedge fund has generated any ordinary losses rather than just capital losses. Sometimes hedge funds can have Section 988 foreign currency losses which are treated as ordinary losses, not capital losses, and aren't subject to the $3,000 capital loss limitation.

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That's a good point - how can you tell from the K-1 if some losses are Section 988 vs regular capital losses? My hedge fund K-1 has so many different codes and categories I'm not sure what I'm looking at.

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Mei Lin

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You'll want to look for Line 11, Other Income (Loss), on your Schedule K-1. If there are Section 988 foreign currency losses, they should be listed there with a code F. These would be ordinary losses rather than capital losses. The K-1 should also include a supplemental statement breaking down what's included in each code. If you see codes like F (for Section 988 transactions) or H (for Section 951A income), those have different tax treatments than the standard capital losses reported on Line 9.

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Amara Nnamani

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Am I the only one who thinks the tax treatment of hedge fund investments is ridiculously complicated? Why can't the IRS just decide whether limited partnership interests are passive or not and stick with it? This portfolio vs passive distinction feels like it was invented just to confuse people.

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It does seem needlessly complex, but I think it's designed this way to prevent people from generating artificial passive losses to offset other income. Without these distinctions, wealthy individuals could invest in loss-generating partnerships just to offset income from other sources.

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CosmicVoyager

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The confusion is understandable, but there's actually a logical reason behind the portfolio vs passive distinction. The passive activity rules were created in 1986 specifically to prevent tax shelter abuse where people would invest in partnerships that generated artificial losses to offset their regular income. However, Congress recognized that legitimate investment activities (buying and selling securities, earning dividends and interest) shouldn't be lumped in with these tax shelter schemes. That's why they carved out "portfolio income" as a separate category - it's neither active nor passive. For hedge funds, even though you're a limited partner, the fund's primary activity is trading securities, which produces portfolio income/losses. This means your losses can offset capital gains plus up to $3,000 of ordinary income annually, rather than being trapped by passive loss limitations that might prevent you from using them at all. It may seem complicated, but it actually gives you better tax treatment than if these were classified as passive losses, which could potentially be suspended indefinitely if you don't have other passive income to offset them against.

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This is such a helpful explanation! As someone new to hedge fund investing, I had no idea there was this third category of "portfolio income" that's separate from active and passive. Your point about it actually being better treatment than passive losses makes total sense - I was worried my losses would be stuck in some passive loss limbo. Thanks for breaking down the history behind why these rules exist in the first place. It makes the complexity feel more reasonable when you understand it's trying to distinguish legitimate investment losses from artificial tax shelter schemes.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I have hedge fund losses but also some rental property passive losses. From what I'm understanding here, I need to keep these completely separate - the hedge fund losses go on Schedule D as capital losses, while my rental losses stay on Form 8582 as passive losses. The key insight about hedge funds generating "portfolio income" rather than passive activity income really clarifies things. I was trying to group all my limited partnership interests together, but apparently the nature of the underlying activity (trading securities vs operating a business) determines the tax treatment, not just the partnership structure. One follow-up question - if a hedge fund also invests in some operating businesses (like private equity style investments), would those portions potentially be treated as passive activities while the securities trading remains portfolio activity? Or does the fund's primary activity as securities trading control the classification of everything?

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Melody Miles

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Great question! When a hedge fund has mixed activities like both securities trading and private equity investments, the classification can indeed get more complex. Generally, each activity is analyzed separately based on its nature. The securities trading portions would typically remain portfolio activities, while investments in operating businesses through private equity could potentially be classified as passive activities if you don't materially participate in those specific businesses. However, the fund should provide detail on the K-1 showing how different types of income and losses are classified. Look for separate line items or supplemental statements that break down income/losses by activity type. The fund's tax reporting should distinguish between portfolio gains/losses from securities trading and any passive activity gains/losses from operating business investments. This way you can report each type correctly - Schedule D for the portfolio portions and Form 8582 for any true passive activity portions. If the K-1 doesn't clearly separate these activities, you might want to contact the fund's tax department for clarification, as they should be able to provide the breakdown needed for proper reporting.

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Lindsey Fry

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This is exactly the kind of situation where getting proper guidance upfront can save you from costly mistakes down the road. I made the error of classifying my hedge fund losses as passive losses for two years running before finally getting it sorted out. The IRS ended up sending me a CP2000 notice questioning my passive loss carryforwards, and it took months to resolve. What really helped me understand the distinction was realizing that the tax code views investment activities (like what hedge funds primarily do - trading securities) fundamentally differently from business operations. Even though you're a limited partner with zero control or participation, the underlying activity of the partnership matters more than your level of involvement. Since hedge funds are essentially professional investment managers trading securities, those activities generate portfolio income and losses, not business income that would be subject to passive activity rules. Make sure to keep good records of your K-1s and any supplemental statements the fund provides. If you ever get questioned by the IRS, having clear documentation showing the fund's primary activity is securities trading will support the portfolio loss classification.

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QuantumQueen

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Thank you for sharing your experience with the CP2000 notice - that's exactly the kind of situation I'm trying to avoid! Your point about keeping detailed records is really valuable. I'm curious, when you were going through the IRS review process, did they accept the fund's K-1 and supplemental statements as sufficient documentation, or did you need additional evidence to prove the securities trading activity? I want to make sure I'm maintaining the right paperwork trail from the start, especially since my fund does quite a bit of complex trading strategies that might not be immediately obvious as "portfolio activity" to an IRS examiner.

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