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American born expat living overseas - what happens if I stop filing US taxes?

I'm 26 and have been living in Australia my whole life, though I was born in the US during my parents' brief work assignment there. I'm a dual citizen making barely above minimum wage at a local restaurant, and I'm getting really frustrated with having to file US taxes every year even though I've never actually lived there as an adult. Last year was my first time filing US taxes and it was a complete nightmare. It cost me nearly $400 to get help with the forms, which is a huge chunk of my savings. The only connection I have to the US financially is an investment account my grandparents set up for me that's now in my name (around $15,000). I honestly don't have any plans to move to the US, though I might visit for holidays eventually. I'd also like to eventually move that investment money to my Australian account. I looked into giving up my US citizenship, but the fee is over $2,000 which I absolutely cannot afford right now. I'm seriously considering just... not filing anymore. What would actually happen if I just stopped filing my US taxes? Would I be arrested if I ever visited? Would they freeze my investment account? I genuinely can't keep paying these preparation fees every year for a country I don't even live in.

The US is one of only two countries that taxes based on citizenship rather than residency, which puts you in a tough spot. Not filing your taxes could potentially lead to several issues down the road. If you stop filing, the IRS might not immediately come after you since you're overseas with minimal US income. However, they can technically assess penalties and interest for unfiled returns indefinitely. These could accumulate significantly over time. For visiting the US, you likely wouldn't be arrested at the border for unfiled taxes alone - the IRS and border control systems aren't that integrated. However, if the IRS were to pursue collection actions against you and you failed to respond, there could eventually be legal complications. Regarding your investment, if it generates income (dividends, interest, capital gains), that's reportable income. If you eventually try to move that money, depending on the financial institution, there might be tax withholding requirements or reporting that could flag your non-compliance. Before you decide to stop filing, look into whether you might qualify for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (Form 2555) which could exclude your Australian income from US taxation. Also, there are free filing options like the IRS Free File program or even volunteer assistance programs that might help reduce your preparation costs.

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What about the FBAR filing requirements? Don't you have to report foreign bank accounts over $10k to the US Treasury even if you don't owe taxes? Aren't those penalties even worse?

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Yes, that's an important point. If your foreign financial accounts total more than $10,000 at any time during the year, you must file an FBAR (FinCEN Form 114). The penalties for not filing FBARs can be much more severe than not filing tax returns, especially if the IRS determines the failure was willful. For non-willful violations, penalties can be up to $12,921 per violation (adjusted for inflation). If determined to be willful, penalties can be the greater of $129,210 or 50% of the account balance per violation. These penalties can add up quickly across multiple years and accounts.

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I'm in a similar situation (US citizen in UK, never lived in US as adult). Here's what I've learned after 10+ years: 1. The realistic consequences depend on your income level and US assets. With minimal US assets and foreign income under the exclusion amount (~$120k), your risk is low but never zero. 2. The biggest danger is actually FBAR (foreign account reporting) not tax filing itself. Those penalties are MUCH higher. 3. If you ever want to move your investment out, you'll likely need to become compliant first. Many financial institutions now report under FATCA. 4. Tax treaties between US/New Zealand might help reduce filing complexity. 5. Look into Streamlined Foreign Offshore Procedures if you want to get compliant after not filing. Just be aware this isn't legal advice - your situation might have complexities I don't know about!

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Thanks for the practical advice! Do you think it's worth getting compliant now or just waiting until I actually need to access that investment? And have you found any affordable ways to file? Those tax prep fees are killing me.

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I'd recommend getting compliant now rather than waiting. The longer you go without filing, the more complicated (and potentially expensive) it becomes to fix later. The IRS has amnesty programs for people who've fallen behind on filing, but they're simpler if you haven't been non-compliant for too many years. For affordable filing, I use MyExpatTaxes which costs around $149 for federal returns with fairly straightforward situations. There's also TaxSlayer which has an option specifically for foreign earned income situations. If your income is below certain thresholds, you might qualify for free filing through the IRS Free File program, even as an expat. Just make sure whatever option you choose understands expat situations specifically.

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What nobody's mentioned is how being a "US person" makes banking overseas a nightmare. I'm a dual US/German citizen and banks here hate dealing with US reporting requirements. Some even closed my accounts when FATCA came in! If you stop filing US taxes you might fly under the radar for years, but eventually something will trigger attention - maybe trying to move that investment, getting a large inheritance, or buying property. Then you'll face back filing for all those missing years plus penalties. The "head in sand" approach feels good short term but can be expensive long term. I tried it for 3 years and ended up paying way more to fix it than if I'd just kept filing.

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The banking issues are no joke. I couldn't even open a retirement account in Spain because I checked the "US citizen" box on the application. Is that happening in New Zealand too?

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I'm an American living in New Zealand and can relate to your frustration! The banking situation here isn't as bad as some European countries, but it's definitely getting more complicated. Most major banks (ANZ, ASB, Westpac) will still open accounts for US citizens, but they ask a lot more questions now and some investment products are off-limits. One thing that might help with your immediate cost problem - have you looked into the IRS Volunteer Income Tax Assistance (VITA) program? They sometimes have virtual sessions specifically for expats, and it's completely free if you qualify (which you likely would based on your income level). The quality can be hit-or-miss, but it might be worth trying before paying hundreds again. Also, since you mentioned you're in Australia - the US-Australia tax treaty has some provisions that could help reduce your filing burden. Australia's superannuation system has specific treaty protections that most tax preparers don't even know about. The nuclear option of renouncing citizenship is expensive upfront ($2,350 now), but if you're truly never planning to live in the US and the annual filing costs keep adding up, it might be worth saving for over a few years. Just make sure you understand the exit tax implications first, especially with that investment account.

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