Accountant Lost All 40 Clients' EFTPS PINs - Need Urgent Advice for Payroll Taxes Due Soon
My good friend who's an accountant in his late 70s just called me in a complete panic. He somehow misplaced the notebook where he kept all of his clients' EFTPS PINs - we're talking about nearly 50 business clients whose federal payroll taxes he handles. The taxes are due in about 8 days and he's absolutely freaking out because he says these PINs take weeks to get reissued. He's worried his clients could hold him responsible for any penalties if their tax payments are late. I'm just trying to help him out since I'm a bit more tech-savvy than he is (he still uses a flip phone, bless him). When I suggested calling the IRS, he just laughed and said "good luck getting anyone to answer!" I did some quick searching and saw something about possibly making payments by phone? Is that actually an option for this many clients? What's the fastest way to resolve this situation? Could he really be on the hook for penalties if these payments are late? I'm really concerned about him - he's already dealing with some health issues and this stress isn't helping. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Diego Flores
Yes, there are definitely options here - no need for your friend to panic! The EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System) does offer alternatives when PINs are lost. First, your friend can make same-day tax payments through his bank if they're set up for EFTPS batch provider options. Many accounting firms use this method. Second, he can absolutely use the EFTPS phone system at 1-800-555-3453. He'll need each client's EIN, the tax period, and payment amount. The system will ask for the PIN, but there's an option to request a temporary one during the same call. This is specifically designed for situations like this. Third, he should immediately request replacement PINs through EFTPS.gov or by calling 1-800-555-8778. While regular replacement takes about 10 days by mail, they can provide temporary authorization codes for emergency situations. Most importantly, your friend likely isn't personally liable for penalties unless his client agreement specifically states this. The business owners remain legally responsible for timely tax payments.
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Anastasia Kozlov
•Thanks for the info! Quick question - do you know if he can do batch payments through the phone system? Doing 40+ individual calls sounds brutal. Also, what info would he need to get temporary authorization codes? Would each client need to call individually?
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Diego Flores
•Unfortunately, the phone system doesn't allow batch payments - each payment needs to be processed individually. It is time-consuming, but when facing potential penalties, it's worth the effort. For temporary authorization codes, he'll need each client's EIN, business name, tax type being paid, and likely verification of the address on file. Clients don't need to call themselves - as their authorized representative, he should be able to request the codes, especially if he's already set up as their reporting agent in the EFTPS system.
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Sean Flanagan
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Zara Mirza
•How exactly does this work? Does it just generate letters or something? Seems kinda weird that some website could help with federal tax payment issues... no offense but sounds fishy.
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NebulaNinja
•I'm curious - did you still have to call for each client individually or was there some batch process? 40 clients is a TON of separate calls if you have to do them one by one.
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Sean Flanagan
•It basically creates proper documentation showing you're authorized to act on behalf of clients with their EINs and tax information, which is what the EFTPS help desk needs to issue emergency access. It's not just generating random letters - it creates legitimate, compliant documentation that meets IRS requirements. For the second question, I still had to make individual payments for each client, but having the proper documentation ready for all clients streamlined the calls tremendously. Instead of 30+ minute calls trying to verify information, each call took about 5-7 minutes once I had everything properly prepared.
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NebulaNinja
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Luca Russo
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Nia Wilson
•Wait how does this actually work? Do they like hack into the IRS phone system or something?? I'm confused how a third party service can magically get you to the front of the line.
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Mateo Sanchez
•Sounds too good to be true tbh. I've spent literal DAYS trying to reach the IRS and gave up. If there was some magic way to get through, wouldn't everyone be using it? What's the catch - I bet it costs a fortune.
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Luca Russo
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Mateo Sanchez
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Aisha Mahmood
Your friend should immediately file Form 8655 (Reporting Agent Authorization) for each client if he hasn't already. This designates him officially as authorized to act on behalf of the taxpayers, which can help expedite emergency PIN requests. Even without the PINs, he should also look into using the EFTPS Batch Provider option through a financial institution that offers this service - many banks allow authorized agents to submit multiple payments at once without individual PINs. Also worth noting: clients can independently make their payments through EFTPS.gov using their own credentials if they have them, or through same-day wire transfers from their banks (using tax payment codes) if absolutely necessary to meet the deadline. Maybe split the workload?
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Chloe Robinson
•Thanks for this advice! I'm not sure if he already has the Form 8655 filed for everyone, but I'll definitely mention it to him. Do you know how long batch provider setup typically takes? Would this be something he could get set up in time for next week's deadline?
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Aisha Mahmood
•The Batch Provider setup usually takes 5-10 business days to become operational after submitting the application, so unfortunately that's likely too tight for next week's deadline. It would be good for future protection though. For the immediate situation, I'd suggest focusing on calling the EFTPS customer service line using the Claimyr service others mentioned to expedite getting through. Once connected, explain the emergency situation and request temporary access codes. Having any existing Form 8655s ready will help, but even without them, they can usually help with temporary emergency measures given the circumstances.
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Ethan Clark
Is your friend enrolled as an Electronic Return Originator (ERO)? If so, he can access e-Services online and might have an easier path to resolving this. Also worth checking if he has a dedicated IRS agent through the Practitioner Priority Service - experienced accountants often have this resource and it can bypass many of the normal wait times.
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AstroAce
•Just to clarify - ERO status doesn't help with EFTPS specifically. That's for filing returns electronically, not making payments. They're separate systems entirely. The Practitioner Priority Service recommendation is good though!
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Javier Cruz
I work at a mid-size CPA firm and we've dealt with this exact scenario before. Here's what I'd recommend for your friend: 1) Call EFTPS immediately at 1-888-353-4537 (not the number mentioned earlier - that's the old one). Explain it's an emergency with multiple clients and pending deadlines. They can issue temporary PINs over the phone that are valid for 30 days. 2) If he can't get through quickly, have him fax a signed letter on his letterhead to 855-264-3287 explaining the situation with a list of all affected EINs. Include his PTIN number if he has one. They usually respond to emergency fax requests within 24-48 hours. 3) As a last resort, clients can make payments directly through their bank's online bill pay system using the "Federal Tax Deposit" option - most major banks offer this and it posts same-day if done before 8 PM ET. The key thing is to document everything he's doing to resolve this. Even if some payments are a day or two late, showing he took immediate action usually results in penalty abatement when you can prove reasonable cause. I've successfully gotten penalties waived in similar situations by providing this documentation to the IRS. Don't let him stress too much - this is more common than people think and there are definitely solutions!
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