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Isabella Santos

Accidentally used Venmo for business payments - can I still claim them as expenses?

Hey everyone, I'm totally new to handling business taxes and just realized I might have messed up big time. This is my first year filing as a business owner so I'm pretty lost. I run a small photography studio and regularly hire freelancers to help with shoots and post-production. The problem is I've been paying most of these people through Venmo over the past year - probably around $7,000 total. I just found out Venmo apparently doesn't allow business transactions according to their terms. Does this mean I can't count these payments as legitimate business expenses on my taxes? I have records of all the transactions in my Venmo history with descriptions of what the payment was for. Would it help if I went back and wrote checks to these people instead, then had them Venmo me back the original amounts? I really don't want to lose out on thousands in deductions just because I used the wrong payment method. Any advice would be super helpful - I'm stressing out about this!

StarStrider

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You can absolutely still claim these as business expenses! The payment method doesn't invalidate the business nature of the expense. What matters for tax purposes is that these were legitimate business expenses and that you have documentation. For your tax return, what you'll need is proper documentation showing these were business expenses. Make sure you have records that show: who you paid, when you paid them, how much you paid, and what business purpose the payment served. Your Venmo transaction history can serve as part of this documentation, especially if you included descriptions in the payments. Going forward, I'd recommend switching to business-appropriate payment methods. Consider using Venmo Business, PayPal Business, or traditional business checking accounts to keep cleaner records. But don't worry about the past payments - they're still valid business expenses for tax purposes as long as they were genuine business costs.

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Ravi Gupta

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If I'm using the Venmo transaction history as documentation, do I need to also have invoices from these freelancers? Some of them were just friends helping out and we didn't create formal invoices for every job. Also, do I need to issue 1099s to all of them if they were paid through Venmo?

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StarStrider

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Ideally, you should have some form of invoice or written agreement for each transaction, even if it's just a simple document showing the work performed and payment amount. If you don't have these for past transactions, create a spreadsheet documenting each payment with details about what service was provided. This helps strengthen your documentation in case of an audit. Regarding 1099s, yes, you generally need to issue 1099-NEC forms to anyone you paid $600 or more for services during the tax year, regardless of payment method. The payment platform doesn't change your obligation to report payments to contractors. Make sure you've collected W-9 forms from these individuals, which provides their tax information needed for 1099s.

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Omar Hassan

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How exactly does taxr.ai work with payment apps? Does it connect directly to Venmo or do you have to download and upload your transaction history? I've got a mix of personal and business stuff all jumbled together in my Venmo and I'm worried about sorting it all out.

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Diego Vargas

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CosmicCruiser

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Wait, there's actually a way to speak to a real IRS person without waiting forever? How does that even work? Last time I tried calling about a business expense question I gave up after being on hold for like 2 hours.

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This seems like a scam honestly. The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible to navigate. Why would I pay some third party when I could just keep calling myself? And even if you do get through, why would an IRS agent give you different info than what's on their website about business expense documentation?

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Diego Vargas

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Sean Doyle

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Another thing to consider - make sure you're getting W-9 forms from all these people you're paying! I got hit with a penalty last year because I didn't collect W-9s from some freelancers I hired through Instagram and paid via Venmo. Without their tax info, I couldn't properly file 1099s for them. If any of these people you paid over $600 in 2023, you need to send them 1099-NECs by January 31st. The fines for not filing these forms can add up fast. You should reach out to everyone now to get their info before the deadline hits!

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Zara Rashid

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Is there a good way to handle this if some of my freelancers were just casual friends helping out? Some of them don't have formal businesses and might get confused if I suddenly ask for W-9s and send them 1099s. Will this cause problems for them if they haven't been reporting this income?

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Sean Doyle

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Even casual friends need to get 1099s if you paid them $600+ for business services. It's actually doing them a favor - they legally need to report this income anyway, and having a 1099 makes it easier for them to file correctly. You can explain you're just making sure both of you stay compliant with tax laws. Yes, they might not be thrilled if they weren't planning to report the income, but that's not your problem - you're just following the law. Not issuing 1099s can result in penalties for you, while potentially leaving them exposed to issues down the road if they get audited. Just send them a simple W-9 form to fill out and explain it's required for any business that pays contractors.

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Luca Romano

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One thing nobody's mentioned - you might be able to avoid this issue entirely in the future by using Venmo Business Profile instead of a personal account. It charges a small fee but it's specifically designed for business transactions and gives you better record-keeping options.

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Nia Jackson

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Venmo Business is actually pretty decent, I've been using it for my side hustle. The 1.9% + $0.10 fee is annoying but you can write that off as a business expense too! Plus it automatically tracks everything for tax time which is super helpful. Way better than trying to sort through a personal account with mixed transactions.

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