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Paolo Longo

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - check if you might have been eligible for those contributions after all! I thought I had made excess Roth contributions for two years, but when I reviewed my tax returns more carefully, I realized my MAGI calculation was wrong. I had included some one-time items that shouldn't have been in the calculation, and I was actually under the limit for those years. Worth double-checking your MAGI calculation before going through the hassle of removing excess contributions. The definition of MAGI for Roth IRA purposes is pretty specific.

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CosmicCowboy

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This is actually super helpful. What specific items don't count toward MAGI for Roth contribution purposes? I'm wondering if I might have made the same mistake in my calculations.

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Michael Green

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Great point! For Roth IRA purposes, MAGI is your adjusted gross income with certain deductions added back. Some key items that get added back include traditional IRA deductions, student loan interest deduction, tuition and fees deduction, and foreign earned income exclusion. But things like one-time capital gains, certain retirement distributions, or unemployment compensation might have inflated your MAGI calculation if you weren't careful about what actually counts. The IRS Publication 590-A has the complete list of what gets included in the MAGI calculation for Roth eligibility.

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I went through this exact situation last year and want to emphasize how important it is to act quickly once you discover the excess contribution. The 6% penalty compounds year after year, so even though it seems small, it really adds up over time. One thing that caught me off guard was that when you remove the excess contribution, you also have to remove any earnings attributed to that excess amount. My IRA custodian had to do a specific calculation to determine what portion of my account's growth was tied to the excess contribution - it's not something you can easily calculate yourself. Also, make sure you specifically request a "return of excess contribution" from your custodian rather than just a regular withdrawal. The tax treatment is different, and you want it properly coded on the 1099-R they'll send you. The whole process took about 3 weeks from when I contacted them to when the money was removed from my account. Don't wait for the IRS to contact you - their automated systems will eventually flag this, and it's much better to be proactive about fixing it!

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Luca Esposito

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If your total itemized deductions are close to the standard deduction amount, sometimes it's not even worth the hassle of tracking all those charitable donations. For 2024 taxes, the standard deduction is $14,600 for singles and $29,200 for married filing jointly. Unless your total itemized deductions (including charitable donations, mortgage interest, state taxes, etc.) exceed those amounts, you're better off just taking the standard deduction. I used to meticulously track every $5 and $10 donation until I realized I wasn't even close to exceeding the standard deduction threshold.

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Nia Thompson

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That's a really good point! I spent hours organizing donation receipts last year only to discover my total itemized deductions were about $2,000 below the standard deduction. Complete waste of time. Now I only bother tracking if I know I've made major donations or have other big deductions that might push me over the threshold.

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Malia Ponder

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Great question! Beyond what others have mentioned about statistical flagging and documentation requirements, there are a few additional deterrents worth noting. The IRS has access to third-party data that many people don't realize. For example, if you claim large donations but your bank records (which they can access during an audit) don't show corresponding withdrawals or checks, that's a red flag. Credit card companies also report certain transaction data that can be cross-referenced. There's also the "lifestyle audit" aspect - if you're claiming $5,000 in charitable donations but your reported income and other financial behaviors suggest you're living paycheck to paycheck, that inconsistency might trigger scrutiny. The penalties for understating your tax liability can be steep too. If they determine you knowingly inflated deductions, you could face accuracy-related penalties of 20% of the underpayment, plus interest, and in severe cases even fraud penalties of 75%. For most people, the risk just isn't worth the relatively small tax savings from inflating donations. That said, don't let paranoia stop you from claiming legitimate donations! Just keep good records and be honest about amounts.

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This is really helpful context about the lifestyle audit aspect! I hadn't considered that the IRS might look at the bigger picture of your financial situation. It makes sense that claiming huge charitable donations while having minimal bank account activity would raise eyebrows. The point about third-party data access is eye-opening too. I always assumed they only looked at what you submitted, but if they can cross-reference with bank records and credit card data during an audit, that's a pretty comprehensive verification system. Do you know if there's a typical income-to-donation ratio that might trigger additional scrutiny? Like, would donating 10% of your income be considered normal while 25% might raise flags?

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If your cousin ever resurfaces and pays you back after you've claimed the bad debt deduction, you'll need to report that as income in the year you receive it (to the extent you received a tax benefit from the deduction). Just something to keep in mind.

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PixelPrincess

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Is there a time limit on this? Like if the cousin shows up 10 years later, do you still have to report it?

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Omar Farouk

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This happened to me! I claimed a bad debt from my ex-business partner and then 3 years later they paid me back unexpectedly. Had to include it on my taxes that year and it messed up my expected refund :

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Chloe Harris

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - lent money to a family member who disappeared. One thing I learned from my tax preparer is that you should also keep records of any attempts to locate the debtor, not just collect from them. Screenshots of failed texts, returned mail, even notes about conversations with mutual contacts can help establish that the debt truly became uncollectible. Also, make sure you have clear documentation that this was actually a loan and not a gift. Bank records showing the transfer, any written agreements (even informal ones), and evidence that repayment was expected are crucial. The IRS sometimes challenges these deductions by claiming they were really gifts to family members. Having that promissory note you mentioned puts you in a much better position than most people in this situation.

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Ayla Kumar

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This is really helpful advice about documentation! I'm new to this community but dealing with a similar situation where I lent $3,000 to a friend who has since moved states and stopped responding. I have the Venmo transfer records and some text messages where we discussed repayment terms, but I'm worried it's not formal enough. Do you think screenshots of Venmo transactions with notes like "loan repayment due next month" would be sufficient documentation for the IRS? I'm kicking myself for not getting something more official in writing, but at the time I trusted this person completely. Also, should I wait until I've exhausted all possible ways to contact them before claiming it as a bad debt, or is there a reasonable timeframe where I can determine it's uncollectible?

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Luca Romano

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Code 150 is basically the IRS saying "we got your return and here's what we calculated you owe/are owed." It's like the foundation of your transcript - everything else builds off this. The date next to it shows when they processed your return, and the amount is your total tax liability before any credits or payments. Don't stress too much about all the codes at first - focus on 150 (return processed), 806/807 (withholding/payments), and 846 (refund issued) and you'll understand most of what's happening with your return!

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This breakdown is perfect for beginners! I wish I had this explanation when I first started looking at my transcript. One thing I'd add - if you see a negative amount next to your 150 code, don't panic! That just means you overpaid and should be getting a refund. I made the mistake of thinking I owed money when I first saw the negative sign πŸ˜…

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AstroAlpha

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Just want to add that Code 150 is also really useful for tracking amended returns! If you file a 1040X, you'll see a new 150 code once they process the amendment. The original 150 stays there too, so you can compare what changed. Also, pro tip - if you're married filing jointly, both spouses' SSNs will show the same 150 transaction, but the primary taxpayer's transcript will have all the detail. Took me forever to figure out why my spouse's transcript looked so different from mine!

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CyberNinja

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Wait, so if I'm married filing jointly and I check my transcript vs my spouse's, they'll look different even though we filed the same return? That's so confusing! Which one should I be looking at to track our refund status? I've been checking both and getting worried because they don't match up 😰

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Zara Ahmed

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@CyberNinja Check the primary taxpayer's transcript (whoever is listed first on your return) - that one will have all the detailed transaction codes including refund info. The secondary spouse's transcript usually just shows basic info like the 150 code but won't have things like 846 (refund issued) or 571 (additional liability) codes. So if you're the secondary filer, your transcript will look pretty bare compared to your spouse's! Don't worry, it's totally normal and doesn't mean anything is wrong with your return.

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Mikayla Brown

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I'm dealing with a similar situation and want to share what I learned from my tax preparer. The key thing to understand is that the IRS looks at the entire household as one unit, regardless of how you split expenses or which parent claims which child. Even though you're unmarried, if you're living together and sharing household expenses, only one person can meet the "pays more than half the cost of keeping up the home" requirement. The IRS defines this very specifically - it includes rent/mortgage, property taxes, insurance, utilities, repairs, and food consumed at home. What my preparer suggested was to actually restructure our finances so one person clearly pays more than 50% of these costs. For example, one person pays the full rent/mortgage while the other handles other expenses like groceries, childcare, or car payments. This way there's a clear paper trail showing who maintains the household. The person who doesn't qualify for HOH can still claim a child as a dependent and get the Child Tax Credit, they just have to file as Single. In some cases, this arrangement can actually work out better tax-wise than both trying to claim HOH incorrectly. Definitely worth getting professional help to figure out the optimal arrangement for your specific situation before you potentially face an audit!

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KaiEsmeralda

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in almost the exact same situation as the original poster - unmarried couple, two kids, been filing separately with both claiming HOH. I had no idea we might be doing this wrong until I saw this thread. The restructuring finances idea makes a lot of sense. Right now we split everything 50/50 like Mason and his partner, but it sounds like we need one person to clearly pay more than half of the household expenses. Did your tax preparer give you specific guidance on what percentage split would be safe? Like does one person need to pay 60% or more to be clearly over the 50% threshold? Also, I'm curious - when you restructured, did you have the higher-income person take on the household expenses, or did you base it on who would benefit more from the HOH status? I'm trying to figure out the best approach for our situation.

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Great questions! My tax preparer said that to be safe, one person should clearly pay more than 50% - she recommended at least 55-60% to avoid any gray area if audited. The IRS wants to see a clear majority, not just barely over half. In our case, we had the higher-income person take on the household expenses (rent, utilities, property taxes) since they could more easily afford the larger share. But my preparer actually ran the numbers both ways to see which arrangement gave us the better overall tax outcome. Surprisingly, even though the higher earner got the HOH benefit, our combined tax savings were better this way. The key documentation she emphasized was keeping receipts and bank statements showing who paid what. She said if you're ever audited, the IRS wants to see clear evidence of who actually paid the household maintenance costs - not just an agreement between you two, but actual payment records. One other thing - make sure whoever claims HOH actually has a qualifying child living with them more than half the year. You can't just restructure finances and then have the non-custodial person claim HOH status.

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Ethan Brown

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I want to echo what others have said about being careful with this situation. My partner and I made the same mistake for two years before we realized the issue. We were both claiming HOH while living together and splitting expenses roughly equally. What really helped us was sitting down and calculating the exact household maintenance costs the IRS considers. This includes rent/mortgage, property taxes, homeowner's/renter's insurance, utilities (electric, gas, water, trash), home repairs and maintenance, and food consumed at home. We were surprised to find that some things we thought counted (like car payments, health insurance, clothing) actually don't count toward household maintenance. Once we had the real numbers, we restructured so I pay the rent and utilities (which put me clearly over 50% of household costs) while my partner handles groceries, childcare, and other expenses. I file HOH with our daughter, and he files Single but still claims our son as a dependent for the Child Tax Credit. The adjustment actually wasn't as painful as we expected, and we sleep better knowing we're compliant. Plus, having clear documentation of who pays what gives us confidence if we ever face questions from the IRS. Definitely recommend getting this sorted out sooner rather than later!

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Dylan Wright

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This is exactly the kind of clear guidance I was hoping to find! Thank you for breaking down what actually counts as household maintenance costs - I had no idea that things like car payments and health insurance don't count. That's really helpful to know when calculating who pays what percentage. I'm curious about the food consumed at home part though. How do you track that when you're shopping together or taking turns buying groceries? Do you need to keep separate receipts, or is there a simpler way to document who's paying for the household food expenses? Also, did you have to amend your previous returns when you realized the mistake, or were you able to just start filing correctly going forward? I'm worried we might owe money for the past couple years if we've been doing this wrong.

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