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Rhett Bowman

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This has been such an educational thread! As someone who's been through the crypto hackathon tax maze myself, I wanted to add a few practical tips that might help others avoid some pitfalls I encountered: **Record-keeping is everything** - Beyond just tracking USD values and dates, also document the specific hackathon details: organizer name, event location (physical or virtual), prize structure, and any written communications about tax responsibilities. The IRS may want to verify the source and nature of your winnings. **Don't forget about state nexus rules** - Even if you're a non-resident alien for federal purposes, some states have specific rules about prize winnings. California, for example, might try to tax hackathon prizes won by anyone physically present in the state during the event, regardless of your residency status. **Consider the timing of conversions strategically** - If your crypto prizes have lost value since you received them, converting them to USD before year-end could generate capital losses that offset some of your prize income (though be careful about wash sale rules if you're actively trading crypto). **Bank reporting implications** - Large crypto-to-USD conversions (over $10,000) trigger CTR (Currency Transaction Reports) from your bank to FinCEN. This isn't necessarily problematic, but be prepared to explain the source of funds if questioned. The tax software and professional consultation suggestions in this thread are spot-on. With amounts over $15K and the complexity of international student status plus crypto, this is definitely not a DIY situation unless you're very confident in tax law. Good luck to everyone navigating this - the tax complexity shouldn't discourage you from participating in hackathons, but proper planning and documentation is essential!

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive guidance I wish I had when I first started dealing with hackathon prizes! Your point about documenting the hackathon organizer details is crucial - I learned this the hard way when the IRS questioned the source of my income and I had to scramble to find documentation about the event structure. The state nexus rules are particularly tricky. I participated in a hackathon while visiting California and didn't realize they might have a claim on those winnings even though I'm not a CA resident. Has anyone successfully challenged state tax claims on prize winnings when you were just temporarily present for the event? Also, great advice about strategic timing of conversions. I'm sitting on some crypto prizes that have declined in value, and converting them before year-end to generate capital losses makes a lot of sense. Just to clarify though - do wash sale rules apply to cryptocurrency, or are they limited to securities? I've heard conflicting information about this. The bank reporting point is something I hadn't considered. When I eventually convert my remaining crypto holdings, I'll definitely be over the $10K threshold. Should I be proactive in documenting the hackathon source, or just wait to see if the bank asks questions? Thanks for sharing these hard-earned insights - this thread has become an incredible resource for anyone dealing with crypto prize taxation!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm amazed by the depth of knowledge and helpful advice in this thread! I'm also an international student (from Canada) who recently won some crypto prizes at a DeFi hackathon, and this discussion has been incredibly eye-opening. One aspect I haven't seen discussed yet is the potential impact on your F-1 visa status itself. Large prize winnings might raise questions during visa renewals or status changes about whether you're engaging in unauthorized employment or business activities. I've heard that hackathon participation is generally considered educational rather than employment, but substantial winnings might blur that line. Has anyone had to address this with immigration officials, or received guidance from their international student office about reporting significant hackathon winnings? I'm particularly concerned because my prizes were large enough that they significantly exceed what would be considered typical "incidental" competition winnings. Also, for those dealing with multiple cryptocurrency types like project tokens - some of these might be considered securities rather than currencies, which could affect both tax treatment and compliance requirements. The regulatory landscape is still evolving, but it's worth considering whether any of your prizes involved tokens that might be subject to additional reporting requirements. This thread has convinced me to consult both a tax professional AND my university's international student services office before proceeding with any conversions. The intersection of immigration law, tax law, and crypto regulations is too complex to navigate alone with amounts this significant. Thank you to everyone who has shared their experiences - this community resource is invaluable for international students navigating these uncharted waters!

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Ravi Sharma

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Has anyone actually gone through this with Fidelity HSA? Their investment platform seems especially complicated for figuring out the earnings on excess contributions.

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NebulaNomad

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I went through this with Fidelity last year. Their HSA specialists were actually pretty helpful. Call the number on the back of your card but ask specifically for an "HSA contribution specialist" rather than taking the first rep you get.

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Philip Cowan

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I dealt with this exact situation last year with my HSA through Bank of America. The key thing that helped me was creating a detailed spreadsheet tracking my contributions by date and the corresponding investment performance for each batch. What I did was go back through my HSA statements and identify exactly when I made the excess contribution (let's say it was my last $500 contribution in November). Then I tracked how my investments performed from that date forward until I discovered the issue. The pro-rata method others mentioned is correct, but I found it helpful to also document everything step-by-step in case the IRS ever questions it. I kept screenshots of my account balances, contribution dates, and the final calculation. One tip: when you call your HSA provider, specifically use the phrase "return of excess contributions with net income attributable" - this is the exact terminology they need to hear to process it correctly for tax reporting purposes. Don't let them just process it as a regular distribution or you'll get hit with taxes and penalties you shouldn't owe. The whole process took about 3 weeks from calculation to getting the money back, but it was worth doing it right to avoid tax headaches later.

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Malik Thomas

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This is super helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and hadn't thought about creating a detailed spreadsheet to track everything. The tip about using the specific phrase "return of excess contributions with net income attributable" is gold - I bet that's why I keep getting transferred around when I call my provider. Quick question - did you have to provide Bank of America with your own calculations or did they do the pro-rata calculation themselves once you used the right terminology? I'm worried about getting the math wrong and then having issues down the road.

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This has been such an informative thread! I'm in a similar situation with my freelance graphic design LLC and was making the same mistake of thinking I could somehow bypass taxation by contributing directly from my business account. Just to summarize what I've learned here for anyone else reading: You MUST pay yourself from the LLC first, pay taxes on that income, and then use the after-tax dollars for Roth contributions. There's no way around this - the IRS requires Roth contributions to come from properly reported earned income. The Solo 401(k) with Roth option sounds like the best path forward for those of us with LLCs making decent income. Being able to contribute up to $23,500 in Roth money (plus potentially more in traditional contributions) versus just $7,000 with a regular Roth IRA is a huge difference for retirement planning. One question I still have - if I set up a Solo 401(k), can I still contribute to my existing Roth IRA in the same year, or do I have to choose one or the other? I've had my Roth IRA for about 8 years and would hate to lose that 5-year clock if possible.

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Simon White

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Great summary! And yes, you can absolutely contribute to both a Solo 401(k) and your existing Roth IRA in the same year - they have separate contribution limits that don't interfere with each other. So you could potentially do the full $7,000 to your Roth IRA AND up to $23,500 in Roth contributions to a Solo 401(k), assuming you have enough earned income to support both. You definitely don't want to lose that 8-year clock on your existing Roth IRA! That's a valuable head start on the 5-year rule. Keep that account active and consider it part of your overall retirement strategy alongside the Solo 401(k). The key is just making sure your total contributions don't exceed your actual earned income for the year. So if your LLC generates $50k in net earnings after expenses, that's your ceiling for all retirement contributions combined. But within that limit, you can split between different account types as long as you stay within each account's individual limits.

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Aisha Khan

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm a tax attorney who works with a lot of small business owners, and I wanted to add a couple of important points that might save people some headaches: First, regarding the S-Corp election discussion - there's a "reasonable salary" requirement that the IRS takes seriously. If you elect S-Corp status, you MUST pay yourself a reasonable W-2 salary for the work you perform, even if it means higher payroll taxes. You can't just pay yourself $20k salary and take $70k in distributions to avoid payroll taxes. The IRS has been cracking down on this, and penalties can be severe. Second, for those considering Solo 401(k)s, remember that if you ever hire employees (even part-time), you'll generally need to include them in the plan, which can get expensive and complicated. A SEP-IRA might be a better choice if you think you'll expand your team. Finally, I'd strongly recommend working with a qualified tax professional before making major changes to your business structure or retirement strategy. The tax code is complex, and what works for one person's situation might create problems for another. The services mentioned in this thread (like taxr.ai) might be helpful for analysis, but they shouldn't replace professional advice for significant decisions. Great discussion overall - it's refreshing to see people taking retirement planning seriously!

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Madison King

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Thank you so much for the professional perspective! As someone who's just starting to navigate this LLC/retirement planning maze, the point about reasonable salary for S-Corp election is really important. I keep seeing advice to minimize salary to save on payroll taxes, but it sounds like the IRS is watching for that. Can you give a rough sense of what "reasonable" means in practice? Like if my LLC brings in $90k in consulting income, what salary range would typically be considered reasonable vs. what might trigger scrutiny? I'm trying to understand if the S-Corp election even makes sense for someone at my income level or if I should stick with the default sole proprietorship treatment. Also, the employee inclusion requirement for Solo 401(k)s is something I hadn't considered. I might want to hire a part-time assistant eventually, so maybe SEP-IRA is the safer long-term choice? Thanks for keeping us grounded in the real-world compliance issues!

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What's the best way to handle shared rental income on a 50/50 property?

I inherited a rental property with my sister that we own 50/50. She actually lives in the main part of the house and rents out an extra bedroom to a tenant. The tenant pays through a rental platform (like Airbnb/VRBO type thing), but we've hit a snag because the platform will only issue ONE 1099-K in a single person's name. They won't split it between us. The tenant's rent payments go into our joint bank account which we use for all the property expenses, repairs, taxes, etc. When I contacted the platform about splitting the income, they basically said: >We are aware that many business partners will share access to a bank and the income provided. However, a bank account cannot be shared among multiple entities in our system. Because of this, you would need to pick one of the individuals to assign as the tax entity through our system. The 1099-K would be sent to the individual selected, but that doesn't mean the earnings on the 1099-K are the sole responsibility of the individual chosen. I asked a tax person for advice, and they suggested forming an official partnership, putting that as the entity on the platform, filing a partnership tax return, and then issuing K-1 forms (Form 1065) to each of us every year. But I found this IRS statement that makes me question if we actually need a partnership: >"the mere coownership of property that is maintained, kept in repair, and rented or leased does not constitute a separate entity for federal tax purposes" Is there an easier way to just split this 50/50 on our Schedule Es without forming a partnership? We literally just share ownership, collect rent, and pay expenses - we don't provide any other services.

Nia Williams

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Has anyone tried creating an informal entity like "Smith Family Rentals" and using that on the platform instead? Our accountant suggested that approach for our vacation rental, and the platform accepted it even though it's not an actual legal entity. Then we just split everything 50/50 on our individual returns with explanation statements.

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Luca Ricci

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That could potentially create more problems than it solves. Using a name that implies a business entity when there isn't one legally established could cause confusion during an audit. The IRS might question if you should have been filing as a partnership if you're presenting yourselves as a business entity to other parties.

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NightOwl42

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I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation! My spouse and I co-own a rental property that we inherited, and we've been getting conflicting advice about whether we need to form a partnership or can just handle it as co-owners. From what I've researched, the IRS Publication 541 specifically addresses this. It states that "a joint undertaking merely to share expenses does not create a partnership." Since you're just collecting rent and sharing expenses (not providing substantial services like property management beyond basic maintenance), you should qualify for simple co-ownership treatment. The approach that @MoonlightSonata described sounds solid - having one person report the full 1099-K income then deducting the co-owner's share as an expense. This way the numbers match exactly what the IRS receives from the platform, but each owner only pays tax on their actual share. One thing to consider: make sure you keep detailed records of how expenses are split and document your ownership agreement somewhere (even if it's just an informal written agreement between you and your sister). This will be helpful if the IRS ever has questions about the arrangement. Have you considered asking the rental platform if they can at least put both names on the account, even if the 1099-K can only go to one person? That might help establish the co-ownership paper trail.

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Liam Sullivan

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This is incredibly frustrating and you're definitely not alone! I've been dealing with semi-weekly deposits for about 3 years now and the learning curve is steep. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track everything: pay date, deposit due date, actual deposit date, tax period it applies to, and the exact codes I'm using in EFTPS. This made it much easier to spot patterns when I was getting notices. Also, if you haven't already, request a transcript of your account from the IRS (Form 4506-T). Sometimes what shows up on the penalty notices doesn't match what's actually in their system, and the transcript will show you exactly how they've applied each payment. The fact that your local IRS office waived the fees suggests they know there's confusion on their end too. Don't give up - once you figure out the exact issue it becomes much more manageable. Keep detailed records of everything for now so you can prove your case if needed.

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Sean Flanagan

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This is such solid advice! I'm definitely going to create that tracking spreadsheet - seems like having everything in one place would make it so much easier to spot patterns or mistakes. The transcript idea is brilliant too. I never thought about the possibility that the penalty notices might not match what's actually in their system. That could explain why the notices seem so contradictory - showing my payments as received but still claiming they're late. I'm feeling a bit more hopeful after reading everyone's responses. It sounds like this is a common issue that can be resolved once you figure out the specific problem. Going to request that transcript and start documenting everything more systematically. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!

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One thing that might help is understanding that the IRS penalty calculation system is largely automated and doesn't always account for nuances in how payments are processed through EFTPS. I've seen cases where the system flags deposits as late even when they were technically submitted on time. A few specific things to double-check: 1. When you schedule your EFTPS payment, make sure the "effective date" (when the money actually leaves your account) falls on or before the deposit deadline - not just when you initiate the transaction. 2. Be very careful about the "Tax Period" dropdown in EFTPS. For semi-weekly deposits, you need to select the specific quarter AND make sure you're not accidentally selecting "Annual" or "Monthly" instead of the quarterly option. 3. Bank holidays can throw off the timing. If your due date falls on a banking holiday, the deposit is due the next business day, but the EFTPS system doesn't always make this clear. I'd also suggest calling the Practitioner Priority Service line at 866-860-4259 if you or your tax preparer has a PTIN. It's a separate line with much shorter wait times than the general taxpayer line. Even if you're not a practitioner yourself, many enrolled agents will make this call on behalf of clients for a small fee. The good news is that first-time penalty abatement is usually granted automatically if you have a clean compliance history, so don't stress too much about the immediate financial impact while you figure this out.

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