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Don't forget about state taxes too! Had an internship in California while being a resident of Texas and got absolutely blindsided by CA state taxes that took like 9% of my intern pay even though I was only there 12 weeks.
This happened to me too but with New York! Had to file a partial-year nonresident return and it was such a pain. Tax software charged me extra for the additional state filing too.
This is such a common confusion for students! One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that you should also consider whether you'll have any education expenses this year that could qualify for tax credits like the American Opportunity Tax Credit (AOTC). If you file independently and have qualifying education expenses, you might be able to claim up to $2,500 in credits yourself. But if your parents claim you as a dependent, they get to claim those credits instead (assuming their income isn't too high). The AOTC phases out for higher-income taxpayers, so sometimes it's more valuable in the student's hands. Also, make sure you understand how your stipend is classified. Some internship stipends are considered wages (subject to payroll taxes), while others might be considered fellowships or scholarships (which have different tax treatment). Your employer should clarify this on your tax documents. The key is running the numbers both ways - total family tax liability with you as dependent vs. independent - and seeing which scenario saves the most money overall for your family.
This is really helpful! I didn't even think about the education credits. My parents make decent money so they might not even be able to claim the full AOTC anyway. If I file independently and can claim those credits myself, that could be worth way more than the dependent exemption they'd get for claiming me. Do you know if there's a specific income threshold where the AOTC starts phasing out? I want to make sure I understand if my parents would even benefit from claiming those credits before I decide how to file.
@AstroAce For 2025 taxes, the AOTC starts phasing out at $80,000 for single filers and $160,000 for married filing jointly. It's completely phased out at $90,000/$180,000 respectively. So if your parents' combined income is above $180k, they can't claim the AOTC at all, which makes filing independently much more attractive for you. Even if they're in the phase-out range ($160k-$180k), you might get more value claiming it yourself depending on your income level. The credit is worth up to $2,500 per year and $1,000 of it is refundable, meaning you can get money back even if you don't owe any taxes. That's a pretty significant benefit that could easily outweigh the value of them claiming you as a dependent. Definitely worth running those numbers to see the total impact!
If you get a CP40, you need to act FAST. This is their "Intent to Levy" notice, which means they're about to start taking your money from bank accounts, garnishing wages, etc. You have 30 days from the date on the notice to request a Collection Due Process hearing by filing Form 12153. This will put a hold on any collection actions while you sort things out. Don't ignore this one!
I went through something very similar last year - got a CP40 out of nowhere for my 2020 taxes. Turns out the IRS had been sending notices to an address I lived at briefly during college, even though I'd been filing with my current address for years. Here's what worked for me: First, definitely verify it's legitimate by calling the IRS directly (use the number from their official website, not the notice). When you call, ask them to read you the mailing addresses they have on file for each year - this is how I discovered the problem. Second, request Form 12153 for a Collection Due Process hearing immediately. This stops all collection actions while you sort things out. You have 30 days from the notice date, so don't wait. Third, file Form 8822 to update your address with the IRS if there's been any confusion about where you live. Even if you think they have the right address, do it anyway to create a paper trail. The whole thing took about 3 months to resolve, but the Collection Due Process hearing gave me the time I needed without worrying about my accounts getting frozen. The IRS agent I finally spoke with was actually pretty helpful once I got through to them.
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm definitely going to file that Form 12153 right away. Quick question - when you called the IRS to check your addresses on file, did you have to wait forever to get through? I keep hearing horror stories about the hold times and I'm worried about running out of time on that 30-day deadline while stuck in phone queue hell.
The hold times are definitely brutal - I waited over 2 hours when I first called. But here's a tip that saved me: call right when they open at 7 AM your local time. I got through in about 15 minutes that way. Also, if you're really struggling to get through, some people in this thread mentioned services that help with the phone queue, though I can't personally vouch for those. The important thing is to file Form 12153 ASAP regardless - you can mail or fax it even if you can't get through by phone immediately. That form is what protects you from collection actions, and you can always call later to discuss the details once you have that protection in place. Don't let phone queue anxiety stop you from filing the form on time!
One thing nobody's mentioned - don't forget about state filings for your S-corp! Depending on your state, you might need to file separate state returns for both your S-corp and personal taxes. TurboTax Business handles most state S-corp returns, but the process can be even more confusing than federal. Also, if you do business in multiple states or have nexus issues, self-filing gets complicated real quick. My S-corp operates in two states and I tried doing it myself last year... ended up giving up and hiring an accountant midway through.
I successfully filed both my 1120-S and 1040 myself using TurboTax for the past two years. As a single-member S-corp, it's definitely manageable, but here are some key things that helped me: The biggest challenge isn't the software - TurboTax does a good job with the guided questions. The real work is in preparation. Make sure you have your books reconciled properly before you start. I use QuickBooks and export my P&L and Balance Sheet directly, which saves tons of time. One mistake I made my first year was not keeping proper documentation for business expenses. The IRS wants to see business purpose for everything, especially for home office deductions and travel expenses. Now I keep a simple spreadsheet with receipts and business justification throughout the year. The reasonable compensation issue is real - I research industry salary surveys for my role and document my reasoning. Better to err on the side of paying yourself a bit more in salary than dealing with IRS scrutiny later. Overall, I save about $1,000 annually doing it myself, and I feel much more in control of my tax situation. Just budget extra time your first year and don't wait until the last minute!
This is really helpful advice, especially about the documentation! I'm curious about your QuickBooks setup - do you handle payroll through QuickBooks as well for your S-corp salary, or do you use a separate payroll service? I'm trying to figure out the most cost-effective way to manage the payroll requirements since I'm just paying myself.
I'm sorry for your loss, Liam. This is definitely a complex situation, but you're asking the right questions to avoid problems down the road. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of establishing the estate's tax year and EIN (Employer Identification Number) with the IRS before you receive the 401k distribution. Since your father passed about two months ago, the estate's tax year began on his date of death, not January 1st. You'll need the EIN to open the estate bank account and for all the tax reporting. Also, consider the timing carefully - if you're planning to distribute the funds to yourself and your sister quickly after receiving them, you might want to coordinate this so it all happens within the same estate tax year. This can simplify the reporting since the estate gets a deduction for distributions made to beneficiaries, potentially minimizing the estate's own tax liability while passing the income (and the 20% withholding credit) through to you and your sister via the K-1s. The withholding will follow the income, so when you each get your K-1 showing your share of the retirement income, you'll also get credit for your proportional share of that 20% withholding as a tax credit on your personal returns. Keep excellent records of everything - this level of retirement distribution needs to be reported accurately to avoid any IRS scrutiny later.
This is really valuable information about the EIN and estate tax year timing, KhalilStar. I hadn't thought about how coordinating the distribution timing within the same estate tax year could simplify everything. Quick question - when you say the estate gets a deduction for distributions to beneficiaries, does that mean if we distribute the full $140k (after the 20% withholding) to myself and my sister in the same year the estate receives it, the estate itself might owe little to no tax? And then we'd each pay tax on our $70k shares at our individual rates? Also, regarding the EIN - I actually already got that set up when I opened the estate bank account, so that part should be covered. But I appreciate the reminder about the tax year starting from the date of death rather than January 1st. That definitely affects the estimated payment deadlines that others mentioned earlier. The coordination aspect makes a lot of sense - I'll make sure to time the distributions so everything flows through cleanly in one tax year rather than creating complications across multiple years.
I'm sorry for your loss, Liam. Based on your situation, here are a few additional considerations that might help: Since you're dealing with a $175k distribution, make sure to ask the 401k administrator for a detailed breakdown of the account. Some plans have both pre-tax and Roth components, and the tax treatment differs for each portion. The Roth portion (if any) would have already been taxed and wouldn't be taxable again to the estate or beneficiaries. Also, given the substantial amount involved, you might want to consider whether the estate should make quarterly estimated tax payments once you receive the distribution. If you're planning to distribute the funds to beneficiaries quickly, this becomes less of an issue since the tax liability passes through via K-1s. But if there's any delay in distributions, the estate could face underpayment penalties. One practical tip: when you do distribute the funds to yourself and your sister, document everything clearly. Create a simple distribution statement showing the date, amount, and purpose (e.g., "Distribution of 401k proceeds per estate plan - 50% to each beneficiary"). This documentation will be crucial when preparing the estate's 1041 and the beneficiary K-1s. The IRS is particularly attentive to large retirement distributions, so having clean, well-documented records from the start will make the filing process much smoother and reduce the chance of any follow-up questions.
This is really helpful advice about checking for Roth components, Amara. I hadn't considered that the 401k might have both pre-tax and Roth portions with different tax treatments. One thing I'm wondering about - when you mention documenting distributions clearly, should I also keep records of how we determined the 50/50 split? We're the only two heirs and my dad didn't have a will, so we're following state intestacy laws, but I want to make sure that's properly documented for the IRS. Also, regarding the quarterly estimated payments - if we receive the 401k distribution in, say, March and then distribute it to ourselves by April, would the estate still need to make estimated payments? Or would the quick turnaround mean the tax liability passes through to us fast enough that we handle it on our personal returns instead? I really appreciate everyone's advice here. This is definitely more complex than I initially realized, but having a clear roadmap makes it feel much more manageable.
Kayla Jacobson
I did a broker transfer from Merrill to TD Ameritrade about a year ago and can confirm it's not a taxable event for standard stock positions. The ACAT process moved everything without triggering any sales. One thing I'd add that might be helpful - if you have any foreign stocks or ADRs (American Depositary Receipts), those sometimes have special handling during transfers. In my case, I had some European stocks that took an extra few days to transfer compared to my domestic positions. The brokers had to coordinate with the foreign custodians, which added some complexity but didn't change the non-taxable nature of the transfer. Also worth mentioning - if you have any automatic investment plans or recurring purchases set up, make sure to pause those before starting the transfer. I forgot about a monthly investment plan and it tried to execute during the transfer window, which created some confusion that took a few days to sort out. The whole process took about 8 business days for me, and TD Ameritrade covered the $75 ACAT fee from Merrill. Having better research tools and platform features has definitely been worth the temporary inconvenience of the transfer process.
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Mateusius Townsend
ā¢Thanks for mentioning the foreign stocks and ADRs! I have a few international positions in my portfolio that I was worried might complicate things. Did you have to do anything special on your end for those European stocks, or did the brokers handle all the coordination with foreign custodians automatically? Also, were there any additional fees for transferring the international positions compared to the domestic ones? I want to make sure I'm prepared for any extra complexity or costs before I start my transfer process.
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Daniel Rogers
ā¢The brokers handled all the coordination with foreign custodians automatically - I didn't have to do anything special on my end. TD Ameritrade and Merrill worked directly with the international clearing systems to move the positions. There weren't any additional fees for the international stocks beyond the standard $75 ACAT fee that applied to the entire transfer. The only difference was the timing - my domestic positions transferred on day 6, while the European stocks didn't show up until day 8. Both brokers kept me updated via email about the status, so I knew what to expect. Just make sure both your current and new broker support the specific international stocks you own before starting the transfer.
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Lindsey Fry
I recently went through this exact same process when transferring from Fidelity to Interactive Brokers last month. Can confirm it's not a taxable event - the ACAT transfer moved all my positions without any sales being triggered. One thing I'd recommend that saved me some headaches: before initiating the transfer, log into your current broker's website and download/print comprehensive reports showing your complete cost basis history for all positions. Not just the summary, but the detailed lot-by-lot breakdown showing every purchase date and price. I also took screenshots of every account page showing my holdings. This turned out to be super valuable because about 3 weeks after my transfer completed, I noticed that one of my older positions (a stock I'd been buying regularly for 4+ years) had some cost basis discrepancies. Having my original detailed records made it really easy to work with Interactive Brokers to get everything corrected. The transfer itself took 7 business days, there was a $75 fee from Fidelity that IB reimbursed, and I'm much happier with the lower costs and better trading platform. Just make sure you don't have any pending trades or unsettled funds when you start the process, as that can delay things.
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Emma Davis
ā¢Thanks for the tip about downloading the detailed lot-by-lot cost basis breakdowns! I'm planning to transfer from E*TRADE to Schwab in a few weeks and hadn't thought about getting that level of detail beforehand. Just to clarify - when you say "comprehensive reports," are you talking about the standard cost basis reports that most brokers have in their tax center, or is there a specific type of report I should be looking for? I want to make sure I'm getting all the right documentation before I start the process, especially since I have some positions I've been dollar-cost averaging into for several years.
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Oliver Schulz
ā¢Yes, exactly! Look for the detailed cost basis reports in your broker's tax center or account documents section. At Fidelity, I found the most comprehensive report under "Tax Forms & Information" called something like "Unrealized Gains/Losses Detail" which showed every single lot with purchase dates, quantities, and prices. For positions you've been dollar-cost averaging, this report is crucial because it breaks down each individual purchase as a separate lot. The summary reports usually just show average cost basis, but you'll want the detailed lot-level information in case there are any discrepancies after transfer. E*TRADE should have something similar - look for terms like "tax lot detail," "position detail," or "cost basis detail" in their reporting section. If you can't find it easily, their customer service can help you locate and download the right reports. Better to have too much documentation than not enough!
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