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Ughhh dealing with BOFA and the IRS is pure hell. I ended up having to get my congressman's office involved after 3 months of getting nowhere with my missing refund. If you're really stuck, seriously consider contacting your rep - they have caseworkers who deal with this stuff all the time and can cut through the red tape.
It hasn't been that long for me yet, but I'll keep this as a last resort option. How did you contact your congressman's office? Just called them?
I'm sorry you're dealing with this frustrating situation! I went through something very similar last year. The confusion comes from the terminology - you don't actually need Bank of America to give you a "trace number." What you need is for the IRS to initiate a payment trace on their end. Here's what worked for me: First, make sure it's been at least 5 business days since the IRS says your refund was deposited. Then you have two options: 1. File Form 3911 (Taxpayer Statement Regarding Refund) with the IRS - you can download it from their website 2. Call the IRS directly at 800-829-1040 to request a payment trace When you contact the IRS, they'll handle reaching out to Bank of America through the proper banking channels. The bank doesn't provide trace numbers directly to customers - it's all handled between the IRS and the bank's ACH department. Before you do anything though, double-check the account and routing numbers you used on your tax return against your actual bank account info. A lot of times these issues happen because of a simple typo in the account number. Hope this helps and you get your refund sorted out soon!
Anybody know how this works with state taxes? If I donate RSUs to avoid federal capital gains, do I also avoid state capital gains tax in California? My company is headquartered in Texas but I live and work in California.
Yes, you'll avoid both federal and CA state capital gains taxes when donating appreciated stock, including RSUs after they vest. California generally follows federal tax treatment for charitable contributions of appreciated property. Just remember that CA has a high state income tax, so you'll still have paid state income tax on the initial value of the RSUs when they vested (just like federal income tax). The capital gains avoidance only applies to any appreciation after vesting.
One thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned - timing your donation strategically within the tax year. If you're planning to donate anyway, you might want to bunch multiple years of charitable giving into this year to maximize the benefit of itemizing deductions. For example, if you normally donate $5,000 annually but take the standard deduction, you could donate $15,000 worth of your appreciated RSUs this year (covering this year and the next two years), itemize to capture the full deduction benefit, then take the standard deduction in the following years when you're not making large donations. This bunching strategy can be especially valuable with stock donations since you're avoiding capital gains tax on a larger amount while also maximizing your deduction benefit. Just make sure you're comfortable with the larger donation amount and have selected reputable charities or a donor-advised fund to manage the distribution over time.
This is a really smart strategy I hadn't considered! The bunching approach makes a lot of sense, especially with the higher standard deduction amounts now. Quick question though - if I go with a donor-advised fund to manage the distribution over multiple years, do I still get to claim the full deduction in the year I make the donation to the DAF? Or does it get spread out based on when grants are actually made to the final charities? I'm thinking this could work really well with my RSU situation since I have about $14k vesting now and expecting similar amounts over the next couple years.
I'm actually a bit confused by some of the responses here. My accountant had me file a Form 1041 for my revocable trust with an EIN, but checked the box that it was a grantor trust and attached a grantor trust statement. He said this was required whenever a trust has its own EIN, even if it's revocable. Am I getting bad advice? I'm paying for an extra tax return each year that others here are saying isn't necessary.
Your accountant is taking an extra-cautious approach that isn't strictly necessary in most cases. The IRS instructions for Form 1041 state that "a grantor trust with a U.S. owner generally isn't required to file Form 1041" if the trust provides statements to all payors that the owner is the one who should receive tax forms. However, some grantor trusts do file a 1041 for information purposes (often called a "substitute 1041"), especially if they received income documents under the trust's EIN. It's an administrative choice rather than a requirement. Your accountant is being conservative, which isn't wrong, but you could potentially save the preparation fees by skipping it and just reporting everything on your 1040. I'd suggest asking your accountant why they specifically recommend this approach for your trust - there might be unique circumstances they're accounting for.
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar boat with a revocable trust and EIN, and it's reassuring to see that I don't need to file a separate 1041. One thing I wanted to add for anyone else reading this - make sure to notify your financial institutions that your trust is a grantor trust for tax reporting purposes. I had to send letters to my bank and brokerage firm with my trust's EIN requesting that they issue all 1099s under my personal SSN instead. Most institutions have procedures for this, but you need to be proactive about it. If you don't do this and end up with 1099s under the trust's EIN, you'll need to include explanatory statements with your personal tax return like others mentioned. It's much cleaner to get the 1099s issued correctly from the start. The IRS has specific guidance on this in Publication 559 if anyone wants the official details. @Owen Jenkins - definitely get ahead of this for next year's tax season if you haven't already contacted your financial institutions!
This is excellent advice about notifying financial institutions! I wish I had known this before I set up my trust accounts. I've been dealing with the hassle of getting 1099s under my trust's EIN and then having to explain the connection on my tax return. Quick question - when you sent those letters to your bank and brokerage, did you need to include any specific documentation like a copy of your trust agreement, or was a simple letter sufficient? I'm planning to do this for next year and want to make sure I include everything they'll need to make the switch. Also, has anyone had issues with institutions refusing to make this change? I'm wondering if some banks are more cooperative than others about issuing forms under your SSN instead of the trust's EIN.
I think everyone is overlooking something important here. If you're using the van for personal trips just to "advertise" your business, that's not a smart financial move regardless of tax implications. The extra wear, tear and gas from unnecessary driving will cost you more than any potential business you might get from someone randomly seeing your van. Instead, consider parking your van in high-visibility areas during non-work hours. That way it's still "advertising" without adding miles or expenses. Or use that money to invest in proper advertising channels that actually target potential customers instead of random people on the road.
That's actually a really good point I hadn't considered. I've been so focused on the tax angle that I didn't think about the actual cost/benefit. The van gets way worse gas mileage than my personal car, so driving it more would definitely add up expense-wise. I like the idea of strategic parking instead - there's a busy shopping center near my house where I could potentially leave it during weekends. Would that potentially have any tax implications I should know about?
Strategic parking shouldn't have any special tax implications. It's still a business asset being used for business purposes (advertising). Just be careful about parking agreements - if you're paying for a spot specifically to display your vehicle, that would be a separate advertising expense you could deduct. One other thing to consider is insurance. Make sure your policy covers your van when it's parked in public places for advertising purposes. Some commercial policies might have restrictions or requirements for this kind of use. It would be painful to save on taxes but end up with an uncovered claim if something happened to the van while it was parked for advertising.
One thing to keep in mind is that the IRS has specific rules about what constitutes "ordinary and necessary" business expenses. If you start using your van significantly more for personal trips just to get your business seen, you need to be prepared to justify that the primary purpose is still business-related. I'd recommend keeping detailed records of any leads or business that actually comes from people seeing your van. If you get audited, having documentation that shows your mobile advertising strategy actually generated revenue will strengthen your case. Without that proof, the IRS might view excessive personal use as primarily personal rather than business, even with all the branding. Also consider that your business insurance might need to be updated if you're significantly increasing the mileage on your commercial vehicle. The cost of higher premiums could offset any tax benefits you're hoping to achieve.
This is excellent advice about documentation! I'm new to business vehicle deductions and hadn't thought about tracking actual leads from the van visibility. Do you recommend any specific methods for documenting this? Like asking new customers how they found me, or is there a more formal tracking system that would satisfy IRS requirements if questioned? Also, regarding the insurance point - should I be proactive about contacting my agent before changing my usage patterns, or is this something that typically gets addressed during policy renewal?
Harper Thompson
Has anyone dealt with this issue when you have HSA contributions as well as Cafeteria Plan deductions? Our situation is similar but more complex: - W-3 Box 5: $412,000 - Section 125 Cafe deductions: $24,500 - HSA contributions: $15,300 - ADP Gross: $451,800 Should our G/L expense still match the ADP gross of $451,800?
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Zachary Hughes
ā¢Yes, your G/L expense should still match the total ADP gross of $451,800. Both the Section 125 Cafeteria Plan deductions AND the HSA contributions reduce taxable wages reported on the W-3, but they're still part of your total compensation expense. The math checks out: $412,000 (W-3 Box 5) + $24,500 (Section 125) + $15,300 (HSA) = $451,800 (ADP Gross) This is why there's often confusion - the W-3 represents what's taxable to employees, while your business expense is the total compensation cost.
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Connor Murphy
This is such a common source of confusion! I went through the exact same thing last year when our bookkeeper quit right before tax season. The key thing to remember is that your business tax deduction should reflect the actual economic cost to your company, which is the full gross payroll amount of $250,250. The Section 125 deductions don't disappear - they just get redirected to employee benefits before hitting their W-2s. I found it helpful to think of it this way: if you wrote individual paychecks, you'd write them for the gross amount, then the payroll company handles directing some of that money to benefits. Your checkbook (and G/L) still shows the full amount going out. Also, make sure your payroll tax returns (941s) reconcile properly with these numbers. The wages subject to federal income tax withholding on your 941s should match the W-3 Box 5 amount, while your total wages paid should match the ADP gross. This creates a nice audit trail if anyone ever questions the discrepancy.
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Steven Adams
ā¢This is really helpful, especially the checkbook analogy! I'm new to handling payroll accounting and was getting confused by all the different numbers. One quick question - when you mention making sure the 941s reconcile, should I be looking at the quarterly 941s we filed throughout the year, or is there an annual reconciliation I need to do? I want to make sure we have all our documentation lined up properly.
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