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I filed my tax return about 10 days ago and received a message that I need to verify my return. Went to the IRS official website and there's this verification page asking for a 14-digit control number from a notice they supposedly mailed me. But I haven't received anything in the mail yet. The page is titled "Verify Your Return" and has a section that says "Verify Your Notice" followed by "Did you receive an IRS return verification notice in the mail?" It explicitly states "You will need this notice to continue with this online service. If you received a notice, but don't have it with you, please come back later." There are two options on the page: 1. "Yes" - which then asks me to "Enter the 14-digit control number provided on your notice, you don't need to use spaces." 2. "No, please resend the notice" - which includes a warning that "If you have filed your return within the last 7 days, please allow an additional 14 days to receive the notice in the mail before requesting another one to be sent. You can then come back and continue verifying." Does anyone know how long these verification notices usually take to arrive? I'm on the sa.www4.irs.gov website, and since I filed 10 days ago, should I just keep waiting the full 14 days as suggested, or should I click the option to request them to resend it now? I'm getting really anxious about my refund being held up because of this verification step.
Hey tax fam! So I just did the math and with my new house purchase, it looks like I'll be itemizing my deductions this year instead of taking the standard deduction (finally making those mortgage interest payments work for me!). I started looking at the IRS Sales Tax Deduction calculator online so I could figure out how much I could deduct, but weirdly it doesn't seem to accept 2024 as a year option. The dropdown just doesn't have it. Has this calculator been discontinued? I was counting on that extra deduction since I made some big purchases this year. Does anyone know if there's an alternative calculator I can use, or am I just looking in the wrong place? I really don't want to miss out on maximizing my itemized deductions for this coming tax season.
Has anyone successfully used the sales tax deduction calculator in previous years? I'm wondering if it's worth the effort or if I should just stick with my state income tax deduction.
I'm in a similar boat with itemizing for the first time this year! The IRS usually updates their calculators around December/January, so it's totally normal that 2024 isn't available yet. For now, you can get a rough estimate by using last year's calculator and adjusting for any major purchases you made in 2024. Since you mentioned big purchases with your new house, don't forget that you can also deduct sales tax on things like furniture, appliances, and even your car if you bought one this year - just keep all those receipts! The key is to compare your estimated sales tax deduction against your state income tax amount when you're ready to file. Whichever is higher is what you'll want to claim. Given that you're itemizing anyway for mortgage interest, it's definitely worth running both calculations to see which gives you the bigger deduction.
I know that physical gold gets taxed as a collectible with that higher 28% rate. Same deal with Gold ETFs - they're also taxed as collectibles from what I understand. Regular gold mining stocks seem straightforward - they're just taxed as normal stocks with capital gains rates. But I'm confused about the tax treatment for gold royalty and streaming stocks specifically. Companies like Wheaton Precious Metals (WPM) or Gold Royalty Corp (GROY) - do these fall under the collectible tax rate or are they treated like regular stocks for tax purposes? Has anyone dealt with this before? Any links or resources that explain the tax treatment difference between these categories would be super helpful. I'm trying to understand the tax implications before making some portfolio adjustments for next year.
In case it helps anyone, I found this explanation on Wheaton Precious Metals' investor FAQ page that specifically addresses taxation. It confirms they're a corporation and dividends/capital gains are taxed accordingly. They even mention that their non-direct exposure to physical metals is one reason some investors prefer them over physical gold or ETFs.
Thanks for sharing! Do you know if they issue a special tax form at the end of the year or is it just reported on the standard 1099-DIV like other stocks?
WPM and other streaming companies issue standard 1099-DIV forms just like any other publicly traded stock. Nothing special about their tax reporting - you'll get the same forms you'd receive from owning Apple or Microsoft. The dividends are reported in the appropriate boxes for qualified dividends, and any capital gains/losses from selling shares are reported on your regular 1099-B from your broker. Makes tax time much simpler compared to dealing with precious metals ETFs that sometimes have more complex reporting requirements.
Just wanted to add that the distinction between these investment types becomes really important when you're doing tax-loss harvesting. Since royalty stocks like WPM are taxed as regular stocks, you can harvest losses against other stock gains at the more favorable capital gains rates. But if you're holding physical gold or gold ETFs that are taxed as collectibles, those losses can only offset collectible gains first before being applied to regular capital gains. This is something I learned the hard way when I was trying to optimize my tax situation last year. I had losses on some gold ETFs that I couldn't use as efficiently as I thought because of the collectible classification. The streaming stocks give you much more flexibility for tax planning strategies.
You've got it exactly right! Collectible losses (like from gold ETFs) have to offset collectible gains first before they can be applied to regular capital gains, which limits their tax efficiency. Meanwhile, losses from streaming stocks can directly offset any capital gains at the preferential rates. For learning more about tax-loss harvesting strategies, I'd recommend checking out IRS Publication 550 which covers investment income and expenses in detail. It explains the ordering rules for different types of gains and losses. The IRS also has specific guidance in Publication 544 about collectibles vs. other investments. Some good online resources include the tax sections on major brokerage websites like Fidelity, Schwab, or Vanguard - they often have detailed guides on tax-loss harvesting that break down the rules by asset class. Just make sure you understand the wash sale rules too, since those can trip you up when you're actively managing positions for tax purposes. Since you mentioned doing a lot of rebalancing, you might also want to look into tax-managed funds or consider holding your more tax-inefficient positions in retirement accounts where the tax treatment differences don't matter.
You've got it exactly right! Collectible losses (like from gold ETFs) have to offset collectible gains first, and only the excess can be used against regular capital gains. Meanwhile, losses from streaming stocks like WPM can directly offset any capital gains since they're treated as regular securities. For learning more about tax-loss harvesting strategies, I'd recommend checking out IRS Publication 550 which covers investment income and expenses - it has detailed sections on capital gains/losses and the ordering rules. The Bogleheads wiki also has excellent articles on tax-loss harvesting that explain the mechanics clearly. One additional strategy to consider: since streaming stocks are regular securities, you can also use them for tax-gain harvesting in low-income years when you might be in the 0% capital gains bracket. This gives you much more flexibility than being locked into the collectible tax rates. Just make sure to watch out for wash sale rules if you're doing frequent trading for tax purposes.
I've been investing in precious metals for the past few years, and recently I decided to diversify my portfolio by purchasing physical gold bullion that's stored in a vault managed by a custodian in Switzerland. I own the gold directly (not through any fund or ETF), but it's held in this secure vault overseas. Now I'm working on my taxes and I'm confused about my reporting obligations. Does this gold stored outside the U.S. need to be reported on a FATCA form (Form 8938) or an FBAR (FinCEN Form 114)? The gold is worth about $175,000 currently. I've read conflicting information online - some sources say physical assets don't count for these foreign reporting requirements, while others suggest anything of value held outside the US needs to be reported. I don't have any foreign bank accounts, just this physical gold held by the custodian. Does anyone know what the correct reporting requirements are in this situation? I don't want to miss anything and get hit with those massive penalties for failing to file these forms if I'm supposed to.
I've been investing in precious metals for over a decade and have stored gold in vaults across four different countries. Here's what I've learned: The crucial factor is whether you have what the IRS considers a "financial interest in or signature authority over" an account. With most reputable gold storage providers, you typically get an account where your ownership is tracked, you can direct sales, transfers, etc. This almost always constitutes a financial account that needs FBAR reporting. I file FBARs every year for my gold storage accounts in Switzerland, Singapore, and New Zealand. Better safe than sorry - the penalties for non-filing can be severe, especially if the IRS deems it willful non-reporting.
As someone who's dealt with similar precious metals storage situations, I'd strongly recommend getting clarity directly from the IRS or a qualified tax professional before making any filing decisions. The distinction between reportable accounts and simple storage can be subtle but has major compliance implications. From what you've described, the key question is whether your Swiss custodian arrangement creates a financial account relationship or is purely storage. If you can direct sales, receive account statements, or the custodian can hold cash proceeds on your behalf, that typically creates a reportable account for FBAR purposes given your $175K value. For FATCA Form 8938, physical gold ownership generally doesn't trigger reporting unless it's held through a specified foreign financial asset structure. However, if your custodial arrangement has account features, you'd need to evaluate whether it meets the filing thresholds. Given the severe penalties for non-compliance (up to 50% of account value for willful FBAR violations), I'd definitely get professional guidance rather than risk guessing wrong. The investment in proper tax advice is minimal compared to potential penalty exposure on $175K in assets.
Hey there tax community! First-time poster here. I recently got offered a position as a tax accountant at a mid-sized firm (about 30 employees). The base salary they offered is $62,500, which seemed decent until they casually mentioned that during tax season (Jan-April), 50-60 hour weeks are the norm but there's no overtime pay since I'd be salaried. Is this standard practice in the industry? I'm coming from a corporate accounting background where we rarely worked more than 45 hours even during month-end close. The recruiter made it sound like "that's just how tax accounting works" but I wanted to check with people actually in the field before accepting. For those working as tax accountants, do you get compensated differently during busy season or is the salary expected to cover those crazy hours? Any insight would be super helpful as I need to give them my decision by next Friday.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - ask if the firm does "busy season perks." At my firm (about 50 people), we get: - Dinner provided every night if working past 7pm - Uber/Lyft covered if staying past 9pm - Housekeeping service twice a month during tax season - Massage therapist comes to office weekly Yeah the hours still suck (I worked 55-65 hrs/week last tax season) but these perks are worth several thousand dollars over the 3-4 month period. Some firms build this into their compensation model instead of higher base salary.
Those perks sound nice but they're just trying to keep you at the office longer. I'd rather have the cash equivalent added to my salary and decide for myself how to spend it. My firm tried the "perks" approach and I calculated it was worth about $3k over tax season, which works out to like $5/hour for all those extra hours. Total ripoff.
Coming from someone who's been in tax for 8 years across different firm sizes, that $62,500 offer is pretty standard for a mid-size firm, especially if you're transitioning from corporate accounting. The 50-60 hour weeks during tax season are unfortunately the industry norm, but here's what I'd suggest asking about: 1. **Overtime eligibility** - Even though you're salaried, some firms pay overtime for hours over 50 or provide comp time banking 2. **Busy season bonus structure** - Many firms have separate bonuses specifically for tax season (usually 8-15% of base salary) 3. **Summer schedule flexibility** - Most firms offer compressed schedules or half-day Fridays during slow season 4. **Career progression timeline** - Tax accounting often has faster promotion cycles than corporate, which can mean significant salary jumps within 2-3 years The "that's just how tax works" attitude is real, but good firms recognize they need to compensate fairly for those intense months. I'd also ask current employees (not management) about their actual experience during busy season - turnover rates can tell you a lot about how sustainable their model really is. Don't be afraid to negotiate on the bonus structure or ask for a salary review after your first busy season. The market is competitive right now and firms are having to be more flexible to retain talent.
Butch Sledgehammer
I kept waiting for my verification letter until my accountant told me to check my spam folder... turns out they had emailed me instead of sending physical mail!! This was last month so maybe they're doing things differently now. Check all your email folders including spam/promotions/etc
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Freya Ross
The IRS doesn't email verification notices... you sure that wasn't a scam?
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Butch Sledgehammer
It was legit - went through the official irs.gov portal. I think it's because I had selected electronic communications in my online account. But def check to make sure it's truly from IRS domain.
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Evelyn Xu
I went through this same verification process about 6 months ago and it was such a stressful experience! The waiting is definitely the worst part. From my experience, the letters usually arrive within 10-14 business days, but like others mentioned, USPS delays can definitely extend that timeline. One thing I learned is that you can also check your IRS online account transcript to see if there are any status updates or codes that indicate where you are in the verification process. Sometimes the transcript updates before you receive the physical letter. Also, make sure you're checking the right mailbox if you've moved recently or have mail forwarded - I've heard of people missing their letters because of address issues. The verification process itself isn't too bad once you get the letter, just be prepared to have all your documents ready whether you do it online or by phone. Hang in there - I know the anxiety of waiting for your refund is real, but it will get sorted out!
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