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Just pointing out that the IRS rules for claiming a qualifying child are pretty specific. For you to claim the child, they need to have lived with you for more than half the year, be related to you, be under 19 (or 24 if a student), not provide more than half of their own support, and not be filing a joint return. The custodial parent usually has the right to claim the child, but can release that claim to the non-custodial parent using Form 8332. Check if you have any written agreements about who claims the child in your divorce paperwork.
Our daughter lives with me about 70% of the time, and I'm the custodial parent according to our divorce decree. My ex was supposed to claim her last year because we verbally agreed to alternate years, but apparently he never did. We don't have anything formal like Form 8332 filed. Does that mean I should definitely file the amendment then?
Yes, you should definitely file the amendment. Since you're the custodial parent with the child living with you 70% of the time, and you didn't sign Form 8332 to release the claim, you have the legal right to claim your daughter as a dependent. Without Form 8332, a non-custodial parent cannot claim the child regardless of verbal agreements. The IRS follows the documentation, not verbal agreements between parents. You're potentially leaving significant money on the table by not claiming her, especially with the expanded Child Tax Credit.
Has anyone used TurboTax to file an amended return for something like this? Is it pretty straightforward or should I go to an actual accountant? I'm in a similar situation with my kid.
I used TurboTax to amend my return last year when I forgot to claim my son's college expenses. It was surprisingly easy - you just start an amended return and it walks you through what you want to change. For something like adding a dependent, it should recalculate everything including any credits you might be eligible for.
Has anyone tried OnPay? My brother uses it for his contracting business and says it's cheaper than Gusto but still does everything automatically. I'm looking at options for my pet grooming shop with 5 employees.
Do they handle multi-state employees? I have people working remotely from different states now and it's becoming a nightmare with my current system.
Thanks for sharing your experience! It's reassuring to hear from someone using it long-term. Does it handle tip reporting well? That's something we need to manage for our groomers. OnPay does handle multi-state employees really well according to their website. My brother mentioned they actually specialize in that since they work with a lot of construction companies that cross state lines. You can apparently set up unlimited state tax accounts without extra fees.
Just wanna say, as someone who tried to DIY payroll for a year with spreadsheets, PLEASE use actual payroll software regardless of which one you pick!!! I messed up our quarterly filings so badly we ended up with $2300 in penalties and had to hire a tax pro to fix everything. The money you spend on proper software is worth every penny.
Oh man, I feel this comment in my SOUL. Did the same thing with my first business and ended up with a similar mess. Tax agencies have zero sense of humor about payroll mistakes.
That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid! I've been doing contract-only up until now, but as we're growing I'm bringing on more permanent staff. Did you end up with a software solution you liked after your spreadsheet disaster?
OP, one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that different 529 plans have different features and benefits. Some factors to consider: 1. State tax deduction - Some states offer tax deductions for contributions to their own 529 plans. Check if your state offers this benefit. 2. Investment options - Plans vary widely in investment choices. Some have age-based options that automatically become more conservative as your child approaches college age. 3. Fees - Administrative fees and expense ratios can significantly impact growth over time. 4. Flexibility - Recent changes allow 529 funds to be used for K-12 education (up to certain limits) and even student loan repayment. I personally chose my state's plan for the tax deduction, but then later rolled it over to another state's plan that had better investment options and lower fees. You can change plans once per 12-month period without penalty.
Can 529 plans only be used for college? My kids might want to do trade school or something non-traditional. Would a different savings vehicle be better in that case?
Great question! 529 plans have actually become much more flexible in recent years. They can be used for a wide range of education options beyond traditional four-year colleges, including vocational schools, trade programs, technical schools, and even apprenticeship programs registered with the Department of Labor. If you're still concerned about flexibility, another option to consider is a Coverdell Education Savings Account, which allows for more diverse qualified expenses including K-12 costs. However, Coverdells have much lower contribution limits ($2,000 annually) and income restrictions that 529s don't have. Some families also use UGMA/UTMA accounts which have no education restriction but do transfer to the child's control at age of majority (18-21 depending on state), and they don't have the tax advantages of education-specific accounts.
Has anyone mentioned the "kiddie tax" yet? If these college accounts generate significant interest or dividends, it might trigger tax filing requirements for the kids. For 2025, the first $1,250 of unearned income is tax-free, the next $1,250 is taxed at the child's rate, and anything above $2,500 is taxed at the parent's rate.
Just to add some clarity on the original question - besides not needing Form 940, you also don't need to file Form 941 (quarterly employment tax returns) either since you don't have employees and aren't on payroll yourselves. What you DO need to focus on is paying your self-employment taxes through your personal tax return (Schedule SE). Since you mentioned it's just you and your husband taking money from the business to live on, those are considered "draws" not wages, and you'll pay self-employment tax (15.3%) on your net business income. Make sure you're setting aside enough for those taxes - they can be a shock if you're not prepared!
Is there any advantage to them putting themselves on actual payroll instead of just taking draws? I've heard something about S-corps saving on self-employment taxes but I'm fuzzy on the details.
There can be significant tax advantages to electing S-corporation status and putting yourself on payroll, but it comes with more complexity and costs. With an S-corp, you can pay yourself a "reasonable salary" subject to employment taxes, then take additional money as distributions that aren't subject to self-employment tax. This can save thousands in self-employment taxes depending on your profit level, but you'll have additional costs: payroll processing, employment tax filings (including Forms 940 and 941), workers' comp insurance, and additional accounting complexity. Generally, businesses making $40,000+ in profit might benefit from this structure, but it's very situation-dependent and requires professional guidance to do correctly.
As someone who's been in the cleaning business for 10+ years, I'd suggest focusing on your business growth now and not worrying about complicated tax strategies like S-corps yet. In the beginning, the simplicity of partnership taxation (which is what your LLC has by default) outweighs the potential tax savings. Just make sure you're tracking all your legitimate business expenses - cleaning supplies, equipment, vehicle mileage, home office deduction if applicable, insurance, marketing costs, etc. These deductions will reduce your taxable income and self-employment taxes.
Riya Sharma
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - even if $60k is reasonable now, you should review your salary annually. As your business grows or your duties expand, what's "reasonable" will likely change. I typically document my salary decision process every year with: 1) Updated market rate research for similar positions 2) Notes on changes to my responsibilities/hours 3) Business performance metrics 4) Comparison to what I'd pay someone else for the same work This annual review habit has saved me twice during IRS questions about my S-Corp compensation. They were satisfied when I showed my systematic approach.
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Santiago Diaz
ā¢Does the timing of salary changes matter? Like if I start with $60k in January but business is booming by June, should I give myself a mid-year raise or wait until the following year?
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Riya Sharma
ā¢Yes, you can absolutely give yourself a mid-year raise if circumstances warrant it. Many S-Corp owners adjust their salaries as the year progresses and business performance becomes clearer. Just document your reasoning thoroughly - note the increased business performance, expanded responsibilities, or whatever factors led to the adjustment. What the IRS doesn't like to see is erratic salary patterns that appear to be manipulating payroll taxes rather than reflecting actual changes in the business. For example, artificially keeping salary low all year then taking a massive "bonus" in December looks suspicious. A clean mid-year adjustment with clear business justification is perfectly acceptable.
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Millie Long
My accountant gave me a simple formula for S-Corps that might help you. She said take 1/3 of your business net profit as salary (minimum), keep 1/3 for reinvestment/business growth, and the remaining 1/3 can be distribution. So if your business nets $180k, a $60k salary would be right at that minimum threshold. I've done this for 5 years now and never been questioned about reasonable compensation. Obviously it's not a hard rule that works for everyone, but it's a starting point that seems to keep the IRS satisfied in my experience.
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KaiEsmeralda
ā¢Is that 1/3 of profit BEFORE or AFTER your salary is deducted? Because that makes a huge difference in the calculation.
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