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One thing no one's mentioned yet - your brother should check if he's even required to file! The filing threshold depends on whether he's claimed as a dependent on someone else's return. If your parents claim him as a dependent and he only earned $7,500 with no other income types, he might not be legally required to file. But if he had federal taxes withheld from his paychecks, he should still file to get that money back.
Thank you for bringing this up! My parents do still claim him as a dependent. But he definitely had taxes taken out of his checks - I remember him complaining about it lol. So even if he's not required to file, he'd basically be giving free money to the government by not filing, right?
Exactly right! Even if he's not legally required to file, any federal income tax withheld from his paychecks is essentially an interest-free loan to the government. Filing would get that money returned to him. At $7,500 income as a dependent, he'd likely get most or all of his federal withholding back as a refund. Many young workers don't realize they're leaving hundreds of dollars on the table by not filing. Plus, getting into the habit of filing annually is a good practice for his financial future.
Just to add something important - if your brother is expecting a refund (which is likely), there's actually NO PENALTY for filing late! The IRS only penalizes people who owe money and file late. He has 3 years from the original due date to claim a refund. So for 2022 taxes, he has until April 2026 to file and still get his money. For 2023 taxes, he'll have until April 2027.
You might qualify for the Innocent Spouse Relief program. My sister was in a similar situation after her divorce - her ex hadn't filed for years without her knowledge. She filed Form 8857 (Request for Innocent Spouse Relief) and the IRS absolved her of most of the tax liability. Definitely worth looking into if your ex was controlling the finances and tax situation.
Would this apply if we never actually filed jointly though? From what I understand, he just took my W2s and never filed anything at all. Can I still claim innocent spouse if there were no joint returns?
Ah good point - Innocent Spouse Relief typically applies when joint returns were actually filed with errors or underpayment. If no returns were filed at all, that's a different situation. In your case, you'd focus more on explaining the circumstances when you file your returns and potentially requesting penalty abatement due to reasonable cause. The IRS does consider situations involving domestic abuse as potential reasonable cause for penalty relief. The most important thing is to get those returns filed now and explain your situation - they're usually willing to work with you on a payment plan for any taxes owed.
Has anyone successfully requested penalty abatement for first-time penalties? I've heard the IRS has a First Time Abatement policy but don't know if it applies to unfiled taxes for multiple years...
Former tax professional here. The ERC situation is a mess right now because so many businesses were pushed into filing by these aggressive firms. Here's what I'm seeing with clients: 1) Recovery startups are actually LESS likely to be scrutinized than established businesses claiming substantial shutdowns, mainly because your eligibility rules were more straightforward. 2) Documentation is absolutely critical. Keep everything related to your business formation, all employee records, and anything demonstrating legitimate business activities during your claim period. 3) The percentage fee structure (15% in your case) is a red flag to the IRS, as legitimate tax firms typically charge flat fees based on work performed. The IRS recently announced they're offering a voluntary disclosure program for businesses to repay questionable ERC claims with reduced penalties. Might be worth investigating if you're truly concerned about your claim's legitimacy.
Thanks for this insider perspective. So if I understand correctly, as a genuine recovery startup (formed after Feb 2020), I might actually be at lower risk than established businesses? That's somewhat reassuring. About the voluntary disclosure program - would using that be essentially admitting I did something wrong? I believe my claim was legitimate based on the recovery startup provisions, but now I'm second-guessing everything because of the company I used.
Yes, recovery startups generally face less scrutiny because your eligibility was based on clear criteria (formation date, gross receipts under the threshold) rather than the more subjective "partial shutdown" or "significant decline in gross receipts" tests that established businesses had to meet. The voluntary disclosure program isn't necessarily an admission of wrongdoing - it's designed for businesses who, after review, believe their claim may not fully qualify. If you believe your claim as a recovery startup was legitimate, there's likely no need to use this program. Instead, focus on organizing your documentation. Make sure you have clear records showing: 1) formation after February 15, 2020, 2) evidence of actual business operations (not just a paper entity), 3) documentation of qualified wages paid, and 4) gross receipts under the threshold. The IRS is primarily targeting obviously fraudulent claims first, particularly those made by established businesses using aggressive interpretations of the shutdown provisions.
Has anyone considered the tax implications if the IRS does demand repayment? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if I'd need to amend returns from the year I received the credit.
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - have you considered taking a reasonable salary from the partnership? This would create W2 wages that could help with QBI limitations if your income increases in the future. I'm a partner in a similar consulting business and we restructured last year to ensure each partner receives both a W2 salary and K-1 distributions. It reduced our QBI slightly in the short term but gives us more flexibility as our incomes increase above the thresholds. Just make sure the salary is "reasonable" for your services or you could face scrutiny from the IRS. We based ours on industry standards for our positions.
That's really interesting - I hadn't considered that approach. Do partnerships typically have the ability to issue W2s to partners? I thought partners were generally treated as self-employed rather than employees.
Regular partnerships can't issue W2s to partners - you're right that partners are treated as self-employed. What we did was elect to be taxed as an S-corporation while maintaining our partnership agreement internally. An S-corp can pay wages to shareholders who work in the business. This creates the W2 wages needed for QBI calculations at higher income levels. There are some additional compliance requirements and costs with this approach, but for us, the tax benefits made it worthwhile once our incomes crossed the threshold amounts.
I made a costly mistake with this exact situation last year - my income was $175k, no wages or UBIA in the partnership, and my accountant incorrectly told me I couldn't take the QBI deduction. After reading these comments, I went back and checked the rules, and everyone here is correct. Below the threshold, you CAN take the full 20% deduction regardless of W2 wages or UBIA. I'm now filing an amended return to claim approximately $35,000 in QBI deductions across 2022 and 2023. That's a lot of money to leave on the table! Make sure your new accountant understands these rules correctly.
Do you know how far back you can amend returns for this? I think I might have missed out in previous years too!
Caleb Bell
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet about the home sale - make sure to check if your father-in-law qualifies for any medical expense deduction for improvements made to the house. If any modifications were made to accommodate a medical condition (wheelchair ramps, grab bars, etc.), those can sometimes be deducted as medical expenses if they weren't already used to increase the basis in the home. Also, regarding the support test for dependency - remember that medical expenses, including in-home care that you mentioned, count heavily toward the support calculation. Given how expensive that care is, it sounds like you're likely providing well over 50% of his total support even with the home sale proceeds.
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Donna Cline
ā¢Thanks for mentioning this! We actually did install some grab bars and a walk-in shower about two years ago but I didn't think of that as something tax-related. About how much of his care costs would qualify toward the support test? The in-home aide costs around $4,200/month and we're paying for all of it.
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Caleb Bell
ā¢The in-home care costs absolutely count toward the support test! If you're paying $4,200/month, that's over $50,000 per year just for that care, which is substantial. All of that would count toward your support calculation. For the medical modifications, if they were medically necessary (prescribed or recommended by a healthcare provider), they could potentially be deductible as medical expenses if you itemize deductions. However, these would need to exceed a certain percentage of your adjusted gross income along with other medical expenses to get any tax benefit. Alternatively, those costs could be added to the basis of the home if you didn't take the medical deduction, potentially reducing any taxable gain.
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Danielle Campbell
I just helped my dad sell his home and deal with all this last year. The magic word here is "basis" - you need to figure out the adjusted basis of the home. Start with what he paid originally ($35k), then add the cost of any major improvements over the years (new roof? kitchen remodel? addition?). Those all increase basis. Then when you subtract that final basis number from the sale price, that's the gain. Like someone mentioned, he probably qualifies for the $250k exclusion if it was his primary residence for 2 of last 5 years, so likely no tax. One important thing nobody mentioned - get all this documented NOW while you have access to records. Future you will thank you if this ever comes up in an audit or if you need to sell another property and need to reference precedent.
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Rhett Bowman
ā¢What counts as a "major improvement" versus just regular maintenance? Like if he replaced the water heater, does that count?
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