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What we're seeing here is a perfect example of the Automated Clearing House (ACH) network's operational efficiency. Financial institutions receive the Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT) file from the Treasury several days before the official Direct Deposit Date. Progressive banks implement what's known as "provisional crediting" - essentially fronting the money to customers before the actual settlement date. This practice has become more common as banks compete for customer satisfaction metrics. The IRS deliberately sets DDDs conservatively to account for various processing contingencies in the Treasury disbursement system.
This is really encouraging to hear! I filed on 2/13 with Chase and got a DDD of 3/3 on my transcript. Based on your timeline, I'm hoping to see mine show up around 2/26-2/27. It's such a relief when it comes early, especially with all the unexpected expenses that seem to pop up this time of year. I've noticed Chase has been pretty consistent with early deposits over the past few years - they seem to prioritize getting funds to customers as soon as they receive the ACH notification. Thanks for sharing the positive news and including the detail about no fees! That's always a concern when dealing with early deposits from some banks.
That's a great timeline to follow! I'm also with Chase and filed on 2/15, so I'm really hoping to see similar results. It's reassuring to hear that Chase has been consistent with early releases - I've been checking my account obsessively since seeing posts like this one! π The no fees part is definitely a huge relief too. I remember a few years back some people were getting hit with early deposit fees at certain banks. Fingers crossed we both see our refunds show up ahead of schedule!
11 One thing to watch out for with W2G forms as a non-resident - make sure the casino actually withheld the correct amount! I won $4,300 at a casino in Vegas and they only withheld 24% instead of the 30% required for non-residents. Ended up having to pay the difference plus a small penalty when I filed.
16 This happened to me too! The casino mistakenly treated me as a US resident because I had a US mailing address (I was staying with my cousin). Is there any way to get the casino to fix their mistake, or do we just have to deal with it at tax time?
11 Unfortunately once the W2G is issued, the casino rarely corrects it. They usually put the burden on you to sort it out with the IRS. The safest approach is to verify the withholding percentage when you're at the casino winning the money. If you spot an incorrect withholding rate on your W2G, you could technically make an estimated tax payment using Form 1040-ES (NR) to cover the difference and avoid penalties. But most people just handle it when filing their 1040-NR, which is what I ended up doing.
Great thread! Just wanted to add that if you're working with a CPA, make sure they're familiar with Form 8833 (Treaty-Based Return Position Disclosure). Many non-residents with gambling winnings need to file this form to claim treaty benefits for reduced withholding rates. Also, keep in mind that some states have their own tax obligations for gambling winnings, even for non-residents. Nevada doesn't have state income tax, but if you won in a state like California or New York, you might need to file a non-resident state return too. Your CPA should know about these state-level requirements, but it's worth asking specifically about it during your consultation. The AICPA directory mentioned earlier is solid, but also check if your CPA has an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) specialization - many non-residents need ITINs for tax filing, and having a CPA who handles both the ITIN application and the tax return can streamline the process.
This is really helpful information about Form 8833! I hadn't heard of this form before but it sounds like it could be crucial for claiming treaty benefits. Quick question - do you know if there are penalties for NOT filing Form 8833 when you should have? And regarding the ITIN specialization, is that something I need to get before filing my return, or can it be handled as part of the same process with a qualified CPA?
After dealing with a similar issue, I finally got through to an actual IRS representative using Claimyr (claimyr.com). They confirmed my return was in the identity verification queue and gave me exact timelines. Completely worth it to finally get a straight answer from a real person instead of the automated system runaround. The uncertainty was killing me before that.
Not an ad, just sharing what worked for me after wasting literal days trying to get through the regular IRS phone system. When your refund is in limbo and you need answers, you get desperate. It was the only thing that finally got me through to a human being who could actually look at my account.
I'm going through the exact same nightmare right now! Filed in early February, got flagged for identity verification, completed it through ID.me, and now my transcript shows absolutely nothing like yours does. It's so frustrating because I've been filing for years and this has never happened before. The worst part is how they just completely wipe your return from the system with zero explanation. I keep checking my transcript hoping something will appear but it's just that same "RETURN NOT PRESENT FOR THIS ACCOUNT" message. Really hoping the 9-week timeline everyone is mentioning is accurate because I'm going crazy not knowing what's happening with my refund. Thanks for posting this - at least now I know I'm not the only one dealing with this mess!
You're definitely not alone! I'm dealing with something similar - filed early, verified identity, and now it's like my return never existed. The lack of communication from the IRS is the most frustrating part. At least everyone here is confirming it's normal, even though it feels anything but normal when you're living through it. Fingers crossed we both see movement soon!
Bruh its wild how many ppl are waiting. My cousin filed last week and already got his but im still waiting since January lmaooo make it make sense
Been in the exact same situation since filing in January! The amended return dates you're seeing are definitely a glitch - I've seen this happen to others too. The IRS system sometimes shows wrong info when there are processing delays. I'd recommend getting your account transcript from IRS.gov (Get Transcript Online) - it'll show the actual status codes and give you a clearer picture of what's really happening with your return. The Where's My Refund tool is basically useless for complex cases like ours. Hang in there, you're not alone in this mess! πͺ
CosmicCrusader
One thing to consider that I learned the hard way - does your fiancΓ©e qualify for any income-based benefits? When my girlfriend claimed our daughter, it lowered her AGI enough that she could stay on her income-based health insurance, which saved us WAY more than the extra tax refund I would've gotten by claiming our daughter. Sometimes the best tax move isn't just about who gets the bigger refund, but about how it affects other benefits like healthcare subsidies, student loan payments, childcare assistance, etc. Just something to think about.
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Ethan Brown
β’This is honestly the best advice here. Tax returns are only one part of the financial picture. My partner and I alternate years claiming our kid because of exactly this - income-based daycare subsidy cutoffs!
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Miguel Harvey
Just want to add something that might help - make sure whoever claims your son also considers whether they qualify for the Child and Dependent Care Credit if you're paying for daycare or childcare. This credit can only be claimed by the parent who claims the child as a dependent, and it can be worth up to $2,100 for one child. Also, don't forget about the Child Tax Credit - it's worth up to $2,000 per qualifying child and has income phase-outs. If one of you makes significantly more than the other, the lower-income parent might get more benefit from these credits. The tax software suggestions others mentioned are great, but also consider running a quick calculation on who would benefit more from Head of Household status combined with these child-related credits. One last tip - if your fiancΓ©e does end up owing money because of the W-4 withholding situation, she can adjust her W-4 for next year to avoid the same problem, or you could coordinate your withholdings better as a couple to optimize your cash flow throughout the year.
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