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Nia Jackson

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Has anyone dealt with self-certification of a QOF using Form 8996? I set up an LLC taxed as an S-corp for my QOF last year, and the form itself is pretty straightforward, but I ran into a few weird issues with the timing requirements for the 90% asset test that weren't clear from the instructions.

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NebulaNova

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Yes! Form 8996 is deceptively simple but has some tricky timing issues. The 90% asset test has to be met on specific testing dates (usually June 30 and December 31), but what they don't make obvious is that a new QOF can choose its first month of qualification. If you choose a month late in the year, you might only have one testing date instead of two for that first year.

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Great discussion everyone! I'm also working on a QOF structure and want to add one important consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet. When you elect S-corp taxation for your single-member LLC, you'll need to run payroll for yourself as the sole owner-employee, which adds ongoing compliance costs and complexity. The IRS requires S-corp owners who work in the business to take "reasonable compensation" as W-2 wages before taking distributions. This means you'll need to set up payroll, withhold employment taxes, and file quarterly payroll returns. For a QOF where you might have irregular cash flows especially in the early years, this can be challenging to manage. Just something to factor into your decision-making process along with the tax benefits. The LLC with S-corp election definitely solves the disregarded entity issue, but make sure you're prepared for the additional administrative burden.

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That's a really important point about the payroll requirements! I'm just getting started with understanding QOF structures and hadn't considered the ongoing administrative costs. How significant are these payroll costs typically? And is there a minimum salary requirement, or is "reasonable compensation" just based on what similar roles would pay in the market? Also, would the two-tier LLC structure that @Luca Romano mentioned earlier avoid this payroll issue while still solving the disregarded entity problem? Trying to weigh all these options before I dive too deep into one approach.

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Pro tip for dealing with CP 11 notices: ALWAYS keep a copy of your original tax return handy! I make PDFs of everything before submitting. Makes it so much easier to compare line-by-line with what the IRS is saying when you get one of these notices. Just saved me tons of time figuring out where my math apparently went wrong on my student loan interest deduction.

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What tax software do you recommend that makes it easy to save PDFs? I've been using H&R Block online and I don't think I know how to save a copy before submitting.

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I use TurboTax and they make it pretty easy - there's an option to save as PDF right before you file. But almost any tax prep software should have this feature. In H&R Block online, look for "Print my return" or "Save my return" options, usually found in the final review sections before filing. If you can't find it, you can also take screenshots of each page during the review process. Not as elegant but gets the job done! The important thing is having all your numbers available when that CP 11 shows up months later and you've forgotten all the details.

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Ayla Kumar

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I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago! Got my CP 11 notice and immediately panicked thinking I was in huge trouble with the IRS. Turns out it was just a simple calculation error on my Earned Income Tax Credit - I had miscalculated my qualifying income by including some unemployment benefits that shouldn't have been counted. The notice looked really intimidating at first, but once I sat down and compared it line by line with my original return, I could see exactly what they were talking about. The IRS explanation section actually does a decent job of breaking down what they changed, even though the language can be confusing at first glance. I ended up agreeing with their calculation and just paid the $430 difference online through the IRS website. The whole thing was resolved within a week and I haven't had any issues since. Don't stress too much about it - these math error notices are super common and definitely not the same as being audited. Just take your time reviewing the numbers and you'll figure out what happened!

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As someone who's been through multiple IRS notices, I want to emphasize that you're handling this exactly right by asking for help and not panicking. The CP2000 notice you received is actually one of the more straightforward ones to resolve. Since you've identified the PayPal income as the likely issue, here are your next steps: 1. **Review the proposed changes carefully** - The letter should show exactly how much additional tax, interest, and penalties they're proposing. 2. **Gather your records** - Pull together any documentation about that translation work, including PayPal statements, any business expenses you had, and records of what you actually earned. 3. **Choose your response** - You have three options: - Agree completely (if their numbers match your records) - Partially agree (if you want to claim business deductions they don't know about) - Disagree (if their information is wrong) 4. **Respond by the deadline** - This is crucial. Even if you need more time to gather information, you can request an extension. The good news is that since this appears to be legitimate unreported income rather than an IRS error, the resolution should be straightforward. Just make sure to respond within the timeframe given, and don't let the tax terminology intimidate you - the IRS forms usually have clear instructions for each option.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm feeling much less anxious now that I understand what's happening. I found my PayPal records and the amount they're showing ($847) matches almost exactly what I earned from those translation projects. I did buy some reference dictionaries and translation software that cost about $120 total - would those count as business expenses that could reduce what I owe? Or is it simpler to just agree with their changes since the amount isn't huge? Also, the deadline on my letter is April 25th, so I have about two weeks to respond. Should I mail my response or is there an online option?

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StarSeeker

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Those reference dictionaries and translation software absolutely count as legitimate business expenses for your freelance translation work! Since you spent $120 on tools directly related to earning that income, you should definitely consider filing a partial agreement rather than just accepting their full proposed changes. Here's the math: If you owe additional tax on $847 of income, claiming $120 in business expenses would reduce your taxable income to $727, which could save you around $30-40 in taxes (depending on your tax bracket). While it's not a huge amount, every bit helps! For the response method, you have several options: - **Mail** (most common) - Send your response with the enclosed envelope - **Fax** - There should be a fax number on your notice - **Online** - Check if your notice has instructions for responding through the IRS website I'd recommend mailing with certified mail so you have proof they received it, or faxing if you want faster confirmation. Make sure to include copies of your PayPal records and receipts for those business expenses if you go the partial agreement route. Two weeks is plenty of time, but don't wait until the last minute in case you need to gather additional documentation!

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Lucas Bey

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I've been following this thread and wanted to add some perspective as someone who works in tax preparation. The advice here has been really solid - Miguel, you're absolutely on the right track with identifying that PayPal income as the issue. One thing I'd emphasize is to keep detailed records of your response. When you send in your partial agreement (which I'd recommend given those business expenses), make copies of everything and keep a timeline of when you sent it. The IRS can sometimes be slow to process responses, and having documentation helps if you need to follow up. Also, since English isn't your first language and tax terminology can be confusing even for native speakers, don't hesitate to have someone review your response before you send it. Many community centers and libraries offer free tax help during filing season, and they might still have volunteers available to help review IRS correspondence. The key thing is that you're handling this proactively instead of ignoring it. That puts you way ahead of people who just panic and do nothing. You've got this!

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No IRS Transcript Updates 4 Weeks After Responding to Letter 12C for $8,560 W2 Verification

I got Letter 12C dated Feb. 14, 2023 (reference number 0426527365) from the IRS about my 2022 Form 1040 return asking for W2 verification. The letter I received states: "IRS Department Internal Revenue of the Treasury Service AUSC SAO OMB Clearance No.: 1545-0074 AUSTIN 02 TX 73301-0034 In reply refer to: 0426527365 Feb. 14, 2023 LTR 12C 0 R ***-**-8076 202212 30 Input Op: 0426827365 00003253 BODC: SB 108 76063 Social Security number: 76221-427-25810-3 Dear Taxpayer: We received Dec. 31, 2022, Form 1040 federal individual income tax return, but we need more information to process your return accurately. Unless required otherwise, send us your reply within the 20 days from the date of this letter. Enclose only the information we requested and any forms, schedules, or other information required to support your entries and a copy of this letter. Don't send a copy of your return unless we ask you to do so. Don't respond with a Form 1040-X, Amended U.S. Individual Income Tax Return. We'll issue any refund due to you in 6 to 8 weeks from the time we receive your response. If we don't receive a response from you, we may have to increase the tax you owe or reduce your refund." Specifically, they need documentation to support the wage/withholding entry of $8,560.00 that I reported on line 25d of Form 1040. The letter continues: "To support the amount of wage or withholding entry of $8,560.00 on line 25d of Form 1040 submit: - Form W-2, Wage and Tax Statement - Form W-2G, Certain Gambling Winnings - Form 1099-R, Distributions from Pensions, Annuities, Retirement or Profit Sharing Plans, IRAs, Insurance Contracts, etc. - Other forms reporting wage or withholding If you don't have the form you need, contact the issuer of the income statement for a copy and send it with a copy of this letter. Otherwise, send us the information in some substitute form. For example, you can send an earnings statement or paystub from your employer which shows year-to-date totals." The letter also mentioned that I could fax my information to 844-254-2836 using either a fax machine or an online fax service. It warned me to protect myself when sending digital data by understanding the fax service's privacy and security policies. Due to high volume, they can't acknowledge receipt of my fax, and my faxed signatures will become a permanent part of my filing. I faxed all my documents to their number 844-254-2836 on February 20th, but my transcripts still show N/A when I check. I'm getting worried since the letter explicitly states they'll issue any refund due "in 6 to 8 weeks from the time we receive your response." Has anyone dealt with this verification process before? I'm getting anxious since it's been a while and still no updates showing in my transcript. I'm concerned because the letter sent from "AUSTIN 02 TX 73301-0034" clearly warned that if they don't receive a response, they may increase the tax I owe or reduce my refund.

I'm dealing with a Letter 12C situation right now too and this thread has been super helpful! Just wanted to add that I called the IRS customer service line last week about my verification and they confirmed that the N/A transcript status is completely normal during the review process. The agent told me that when they receive your faxed documents, they actually remove your return from the normal processing queue to manually verify everything - that's why it shows N/A instead of your usual return info. She said not to worry unless it's been more than 12 weeks total since you first faxed your response. @Ryan since you faxed on Feb 20th and it's been 4 weeks, you're still well within the normal timeframe. The peak tax season backlog is real but they do eventually get through everything. I'd definitely wait the full 8 weeks before calling again since they'll just tell you the same thing anyway. Keep that fax confirmation safe though - that's your proof you responded on time if any issues come up later! Hang in there, we're all in this waiting game together šŸ’Ŗ

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Olivia Kay

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Thanks @Ian for calling and getting that confirmation from the IRS! That's really reassuring to hear directly from an agent that the N/A status is just part of their normal verification process. I'm dealing with my first Letter 12C situation and honestly was starting to think something went wrong when my transcript didn't update after a few weeks. The 12-week total timeline you mentioned is good to know too - gives me a better sense of when I should actually start worrying vs just being patient. It's crazy how backed up they get during tax season but at least we know the system does work eventually. Really appreciate you sharing what the agent told you! šŸ™

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Maya Diaz

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I'm in almost the exact same situation! Got my Letter 12C about 5 weeks ago for a W-2 verification issue (different amount but same process). The waiting is absolutely nerve-wracking, especially when you see that N/A status on your transcript and start wondering if your documents got lost in the system. What's been helping me is keeping track of the timeline - like @Ian mentioned, the IRS agent confirmed that 12 weeks total is when you should actually start worrying. Since you faxed on Feb 20th, you're still well within normal processing time even with the peak season delays. I also used HelloFax like @Jessica suggested and got a confirmation receipt, which definitely helps with peace of mind. The online fax services seem way more reliable than traditional fax machines, especially when dealing with something this important. The hardest part is just the waiting game when your refund is sitting there in limbo. But from everything I've read and heard, as long as you responded within that 20-day window (which you did), you should be good. The IRS is just incredibly backed up right now. Hang in there - we're all riding this out together! šŸ¤ž

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Just wanted to add that if you're ever unsure about your tax code, you can check it online through your HMRC personal tax account. You'll be able to see exactly how they calculated your code and what factors they've taken into account (like benefits, previous underpayments, etc.). Also, don't worry too much if your code changes between jobs - it's actually quite common. When you start a new job, your new employer uses the tax code from your P45 (if you have one) or puts you on an emergency code temporarily. HMRC then sends them your correct code once they've processed your employment details. The 1242L code is indeed the standard one for most people in the 2024-25 tax year, so you're likely on the right track. Just keep an eye on your payslips to make sure the deductions look reasonable for your salary level.

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That's really helpful advice about checking the HMRC personal tax account online! I didn't realize you could see exactly how they calculated your code. I'm definitely going to set that up - it sounds much easier than trying to decipher all the different factors that might affect it. The emergency tax code thing makes sense too, I think that might be what happened when I switched jobs. Thanks for the reassurance that 1242L is standard - I was starting to worry I was missing something important!

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Just to add another perspective - I had the exact same confusion when I switched jobs last year! The 1242L code is definitely the standard one, but what really helped me understand my take-home pay was using a simple salary calculator online to work out exactly what should be coming out. With your £38,500 salary, after the £12,420 personal allowance, you'd be paying 20% tax on £26,080 (which is £5,216 annually). Don't forget National Insurance contributions too - that's 12% on earnings between £12,570 and £50,270, so roughly £3,112 per year on your salary. Your monthly take-home should be around £2,550-£2,600 depending on your pension contributions. If it's significantly different from that, it might be worth checking if you're on an emergency tax code temporarily or if there are other deductions you weren't expecting. The good news is that if you have been overpaying due to an incorrect code, HMRC will refund you once it's sorted!

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