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I went through something very similar last year! The timing of these notices can be really confusing because they're often generated automatically by the IRS computer system without considering recent payments. Here's what I'd recommend: First, check your bank account to confirm your payment cleared. Then, set up an online account at IRS.gov if you haven't already - this will show your most current balance and payment history. The online account updates faster than their notice system. Based on the amounts you mentioned ($1,492 vs $1,495.58), it does look like the CP22A is showing the original amount plus a small amount of interest that accrued before your payment was processed. This is completely normal. If your online account shows a zero balance or only a small remaining balance after your payment posts, then you know you're in good shape. If it still shows the full amount after 2-3 weeks, then you'll want to contact them with proof of your payment. Don't stress too much - this timing issue happens to a lot of people, especially during busy tax seasons. The IRS notices often cross in the mail with payments, creating this exact confusion you're experiencing.
This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with my first CP notice and wasn't sure if I should panic or wait it out. The part about setting up the online account makes a lot of sense - I've been putting that off but it sounds like it's the best way to see what's actually happening with my account in real time. How long did it take for your online account to show the correct balance after you made your payment?
@Peyton Clarke In my case, it took about 10 days for the online account to reflect my payment - I had sent a check so that included processing time. If you pay electronically through the IRS Direct Pay system, it should show up much faster, usually within 1-2 business days. The key thing is that the online account updates way faster than their automated notice system, so you ll'know your true status before any more confusing notices arrive. Setting up the account is definitely worth the few minutes it takes - it gives you so much peace of mind to see exactly what they have on file for you.
I've been through this exact situation! The CP22A is almost certainly related to your CP2000 payment, and the small difference ($3.58) is likely interest that accumulated between when the original notice was generated and when your payment was processed. Here's what I'd do in your shoes: 1. **Check your bank** - Make sure your $1,492 payment has cleared 2. **Set up IRS online account** - Go to IRS.gov and create an account to see your current balance in real-time. This updates much faster than their notice system 3. **Wait 2-3 weeks** - Give the IRS time to process and apply your payment to your account 4. **Only pay the difference** - If your online account shows you only owe the small interest amount after your payment posts, just pay that The IRS computer system generates these notices automatically, often before recent payments are fully processed in their system. It's super common for the CP22A to cross in the mail with your payment, creating exactly this kind of confusion. Don't panic - you're handling this correctly by paying promptly. Just give their system time to catch up, and use the online account to see your true current status rather than relying on potentially outdated paper notices.
This is exactly the kind of clear, step-by-step advice I needed when I was dealing with my first IRS notices! I'm curious though - when you say "wait 2-3 weeks," is that from when you mail the check or from when it actually clears your bank account? I sent my payment about a week ago and it cleared my bank three days ago, so I'm trying to figure out my timeline for checking the online account.
Has anyone had success getting the failure-to-pay penalties abated when filing an amended return for a capital loss carryback? We're in a similar situation but our CFO is saying it's not worth pursuing because the penalties will still apply even if the tax is reduced.
We were able to get partial penalty abatement by showing reasonable cause. In our case, we documented the market downturn that caused both our inability to pay the original tax and the subsequent capital losses. We included a detailed letter explaining the circumstances with our amended return and about 70% of the penalties were removed.
I went through almost the exact same situation with our C corp last year. A few key points from my experience: 1. The 3-year deadline Noah mentioned is correct, but don't wait until the last minute. The IRS processing time for corporate amendments can be 6+ months. 2. Regarding penalties and interest - they will be recalculated from the original due date based on your reduced liability after the carryback. However, you'll still owe some penalties for the period you didn't pay, just on a smaller base amount. 3. One thing that helped us significantly was filing Form 1139 (Application for Tentative Refund) along with the 1120X. This can speed up getting at least a partial refund while they process the full amendment. 4. Document everything about your cash flow issues and the market conditions that caused both the original payment problem and the subsequent losses. This can help with penalty abatement requests. The whole process took about 8 months for us, but we recovered about 65% of our tax liability plus got partial penalty relief. Definitely worth pursuing given your timeline - you still have nearly a year before the deadline.
This is incredibly helpful, thank you for sharing your experience! The 8-month processing time is good to know - I was hoping it would be faster but at least now I can set realistic expectations. A couple of follow-up questions: When you filed Form 1139, did you receive the tentative refund before the full amendment was processed? And for the penalty abatement documentation, did you submit that with the original amended return or as a separate request afterward? Also, did you work with a tax professional or handle this yourself? Given the complexity and the amounts involved, I'm wondering if it's worth bringing in a specialist at this point.
Quick question about the food part of business travel - if I'm attending a conference in Vegas, are all my meals 50% deductible or just dinners out? What about if the conference includes some meals as part of registration?
The rules for meals during business travel are actually pretty straightforward. Any meals not included in your conference registration are 50% deductible (breakfast, lunch, dinner - doesn't matter which meal). If the conference includes certain meals as part of your registration fee, those specific meals are 100% deductible since they're part of the business event cost. Just make sure you keep separate receipts for everything and note which meals were included with the conference. Also worth noting that the IRS doesn't expect you to go super cheap on meals - reasonable business meals at regular restaurants are fine.
Great question! I've dealt with this exact situation multiple times as a consultant who travels frequently for client meetings and industry events. The "lavish and extravagant" standard is really about reasonableness within the context of your location and business needs. Your budget of $1300-1900 for a Vegas conference sounds very reasonable. The IRS isn't expecting you to stay at budget motels - they understand that business travelers need appropriate accommodations that allow them to be productive and represent their business professionally. A few practical tips from my experience: - Standard business hotels (Hilton, Marriott, etc.) are totally fine, even in Vegas - Keep all receipts and the conference materials/agenda - Take photos of your receipts as backup - Make brief notes about business sessions attended and key contacts made - If you do any personal activities (shows, gambling), keep those expenses completely separate The key is demonstrating legitimate business purpose. As long as your primary reason for the trip is the conference and your expenses are reasonable for a business traveler in that location, you should be fine. The IRS is more concerned with people trying to write off luxury vacations than legitimate business travel to conferences. Also remember that your conference registration fee is 100% deductible, while meals not included in the registration are 50% deductible.
Anyone know how the new 3.8% Net Investment Income Tax applies to S-Corps? I heard there were some changes coming in 2025 that might affect distributions...
The proposed changes to NIIT for S-Corp distributions didn't actually pass in the final legislation. As of 2025 filing season, S-Corp distributions still avoid the 3.8% NIIT for active shareholders. But always good to check with your accountant since tax laws change frequently!
Great question! The S-Corp strategy is definitely still viable in 2025, and with $145K in business income, you're right in the sweet spot where it typically makes financial sense. Here's my take: you'll likely want to set your salary somewhere in the $70K-$90K range (depending on your specific role and local market rates), which would still leave you with $55K-$75K in distributions that avoid self-employment taxes. That could save you roughly $8K-$11K annually in SE taxes alone. A few practical tips from someone who made this switch: - Start researching payroll services now (Gusto, ADP, etc.) - you'll need one - Document your salary decision thoroughly - save industry salary surveys, job postings, etc. - Factor in the extra costs: payroll service (~$500-600/year), additional tax prep fees (~$500-1000), and any state fees - Consider timing - you generally need to elect S-Corp status by March 15th for it to be effective for the current tax year Even with all the extra costs and complexity, most businesses in your income range see net savings of $5K-$10K annually. The break-even point is usually around $60K-$80K in business income, so you're well above that threshold. Just make sure to run the actual numbers for your situation before making the switch!
This is really helpful breakdown! I'm curious about the timing aspect you mentioned - if someone misses the March 15th deadline for S-Corp election, are there any other options? Like can you elect it for the following tax year, or is there a way to get an extension if you have a valid reason for missing the deadline? Also, when you mention documenting salary decisions with industry surveys and job postings - do you have any recommendations for reliable sources to pull this data from? I want to make sure I'm using credible information that would hold up if questioned.
CosmicVoyager
I'm dealing with a CP05 notice right now too, and the anxiety is real! Filed in early March and got the notice last week. What's been driving me crazy is not knowing WHY they're reviewing it - like you, everything seemed straightforward on my return. I've been reading that these reviews have become much more common lately, especially for returns with education credits (which I also claimed). The waiting game is brutal when you're counting on that money for expenses. One small tip that's helped my peace of mind: I screenshot my "Where's My Refund" status every few days so I can actually see if anything changes, rather than just relying on memory. The status hasn't updated yet, but at least I feel like I'm doing something! Keep us posted on how it goes - hoping we both get good news before the full 60 days are up! š¤
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Steven Adams
ā¢I'm in the exact same boat! Filed in late February, got my CP05 notice a couple weeks ago, and I also claimed education credits. The not knowing WHY is definitely the worst part - like did I mess something up or is it just random? That screenshot tip is actually brilliant - I've been checking obsessively but then second-guessing myself about whether anything changed. Going to start doing that today! Really hoping we both hear something soon. This whole process makes you feel so powerless when you're just waiting on money that's rightfully yours. At least it's good to know I'm not alone in this! š¤
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Filed my return in early March and just got my CP05 notice yesterday. Like you, I was really counting on that refund for some upcoming bills and the 60-day wait is stressing me out. What's been helpful for me is remembering that this is actually pretty routine - my accountant told me these reviews have become way more common since the IRS is trying to prevent fraud. She said most of her clients who get CP05 notices end up getting their full refund, just with the delay. I've been checking the "Where's My Refund" tool obsessively (probably not healthy lol) but at least it gives me something to do while I wait. The hardest part is just not knowing exactly what triggered the review. Hang in there - from everything I've read here and elsewhere, the odds are really good that you'll get your refund once they finish their verification. The waiting just sucks when you need the money! š¤
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