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My friend tried deducting his real estate courses last year and got audited! The IRS disallowed the deduction because they said his education was preparing him for a "new trade or business" since he only owned one rental property at the time. Just be careful and document everything!!

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NeonNova

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That seems excessive for the IRS to audit over education expenses. Was he claiming other questionable deductions too? I've been deducting relevant continuing education for years with no issues.

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The key distinction that tripped up your friend's situation is really important for everyone to understand. The IRS looks at whether you're already operating as a business versus preparing to enter a new business. With just one rental property, it can be harder to establish that you're already running a legitimate rental business operation. In your case with 2 duplexes over 3 years, you have a much stronger position to argue you're already in the rental business and the MBA courses are maintaining/improving existing skills. The fact that you're already paying taxes on rental income and have multiple properties helps establish this as an ongoing business activity. However, I'd still recommend being very conservative and only claiming the portions of courses that directly relate to your current landlord activities. Document how specific course modules connect to tasks you already perform - like tenant screening, property maintenance planning, financial analysis of your existing properties, etc. Avoid claiming anything that looks like it's preparing you for real estate development, commercial property acquisition, or other activities you're not currently doing.

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Oscar Murphy

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This is really helpful context! I'm new to rental property investing (just bought my first duplex 6 months ago) and was thinking about taking some real estate courses. Based on what you're saying about the "one property" issue, it sounds like I should probably wait until I have more established business activity before trying to deduct education expenses? Also, when you mention documenting how course modules connect to current tasks - do you keep like a detailed journal of your landlord activities to reference later, or is there a better way to organize this documentation?

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Mei Liu

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Just want to warn everyone - be super careful about claiming ESA expenses. My friend tried deducting her emotional support cat expenses last year and got audited. The IRS made her pay back all the deductions plus penalties. Unless your situation clearly qualifies under the service animal rules, it's probably not worth the risk.

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Liam O'Donnell

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This happened to my cousin too! The audit was a nightmare and ended up costing way more than the deduction was worth. The IRS agent told him they specifically look for animal-related deductions because so many people try to claim their pets.

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Thanks for sharing this question - it's one that comes up a lot and the answers here are really helpful. I went through something similar with my therapy dog last year. Just to add another perspective: even if you can't deduct the ESA expenses directly, don't forget that you can still deduct your therapy sessions and any other mental health treatment costs (assuming you itemize and meet the 7.5% AGI threshold). The therapy that led to your ESA prescription is definitely a legitimate medical expense. Also, keep really detailed records of everything - receipts, vet bills, your therapist's documentation, etc. Even if you don't claim the ESA expenses this year, tax laws can change, and having good documentation ready is always smart. The IRS appreciates thorough record-keeping if you ever do get questioned about any medical deductions. Hope Milo continues to help with your anxiety and depression - ESAs can make such a difference even if the tax benefits aren't there!

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Ravi Kapoor

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This is such great advice about keeping detailed records! I'm actually just getting started with understanding all this tax stuff as someone new to having medical expenses. When you mention the 7.5% AGI threshold, does that mean ALL your medical expenses combined need to exceed that amount, or just the therapy-related ones? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth itemizing since I also have some other medical costs from physical therapy this year. It's confusing trying to figure out what counts toward that threshold and what doesn't.

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Felix Grigori

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Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! This clears up my confusion. I was hoping the IP PIN would simplify things but sounds like I need to be prepared for both. Really appreciate the detailed explanations - makes sense that they serve different security purposes even though it's frustrating to deal with multiple layers.

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Hannah White

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Same here! Just got my first IP PIN this year and was hoping it would streamline everything. At least now I know what to expect - thanks for asking this question, saved me from being caught off guard!

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Dylan Wright

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Just to add some clarity from someone who's been through this multiple times - the IP PIN is basically your "password" to file, while identity verification is like showing your driver's license. Even with the PIN, if the IRS system flags something unusual about your return (could be income changes, new deductions, etc.), they'll still ask you to verify. It's annoying but it's actually protecting you from having someone else successfully file a fraudulent return even if they somehow got your PIN. The good news is once you verify successfully, it usually gets easier in future years.

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Amina Diallo

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Another option you could consider is FreeTaxUSA. I've used it for years with my self-employment income. They charge nothing for federal filing (even with Schedule C) and only $15 for state. Saved me a ton compared to TurboTax's $160+ pricing.

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GamerGirl99

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Does FreeTaxUSA have the same deduction-finding capabilities as TurboTax though? I've heard TurboTax is better at finding all possible deductions for self-employed people, which could save more than the price difference.

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Amina Diallo

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In my experience, FreeTaxUSA covers all the same deductions as TurboTax. It asks about all business expenses like supplies, equipment, mileage, home office, health insurance, etc. The interface isn't as fancy, but all the same deductions are there. The main difference is that TurboTax might ask more "leading" questions that prompt you to remember certain expenses, while FreeTaxUSA sometimes requires you to be more knowledgeable about what you can deduct. But if you take a little time to research self-employment deductions for your specific profession beforehand, you won't miss anything.

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I do taxes for several barbers and I'll tell you what I tell them - if you're getting a 1099-NEC, you NEED the self-employed version of whatever tax software you choose. Here's why: 1) You have to file Schedule C to report your income properly 2) You're missing out on THOUSANDS in deductions if you don't track business expenses 3) You have self-employment tax to calculate (extra 15.3% on your profits) Most barbers I work with can deduct: - Chair rental - Supplies (clippers, scissors, products) - Continuing education - Uniforms/work clothes - Business percentage of phone - Mileage if you travel between locations Don't cheap out on the software and miss these deductions!

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Isabella Costa

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This is super helpful, thank you! Quick question - can barbers deduct the cost of their own haircuts since they need to look professional for work?

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Amara Eze

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Unfortunately, no - personal grooming expenses like your own haircuts aren't deductible even if you need to look professional for work. The IRS considers these personal expenses regardless of your profession. However, you CAN deduct haircuts if you're getting them specifically for photo shoots, advertisements, or promotional materials for your barbering business. The key is that it has to be directly related to generating business income, not just maintaining a professional appearance. What you CAN deduct as a barber is professional development like attending hair shows, advanced cutting classes, or product training seminars - those are legitimate business education expenses.

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Max Knight

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Does anyone use TurboTax Self-Employed for this stuff? I'm trying to figure out where to even put these meal expenses when I file. Last year was my first IC job and I completely missed tracking meals because I didn't know they could be deductible.

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Emma Swift

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Yep, I use TurboTax Self-Employed. When you get to the business expenses section, there's a specific category for "Meals" where you can enter the total amount. It automatically applies the 50% limitation. Make sure you're filing Schedule C (Profit or Loss from Business) as part of your return.

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ThunderBolt7

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Great question! As someone who's been doing IC delivery work for about 2 years now, I can share what I've learned about meal deductions. The key thing to remember is that your meals need to have a clear business purpose beyond just "I was hungry." For delivery drivers, meals can be deductible when they're necessary to maintain your delivery schedule or efficiency. For example, if you're in the middle of a busy delivery block and need to grab something quick to keep going without losing income, that's typically deductible at 50%. What I do is keep a simple log on my phone noting: - Date and time of meal - Location where purchased - Amount spent - Brief business reason (like "grabbed lunch during 4-hour delivery block to maintain schedule") The IRS isn't looking to deny reasonable meal expenses - they just want to see that it was truly connected to your business activities rather than just your normal personal eating. Keep good records and you should be fine! One more tip: if you do multi-app delivery (DoorDash, Uber Eats, etc.), those meals during active delivery periods are usually your strongest deductions since you're clearly "on the clock.

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