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Friendly reminder to everyone discussing RSUs: there are actually TWO tax events to worry about! 1. When RSUs vest: This is treated as ordinary income (what everyone's discussing in this thread) 2. When you sell the shares: Any gain or loss after vesting is capital gain/loss For example, if RSUs vest at $100/share and you sell later at $150, you'll pay: - Ordinary income tax on the $100 at vesting - Capital gains tax on the $50 appreciation when you sell I see a lot of people getting confused because they only think about one of these tax events. Both need to be reported properly!

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This is such an important point that most people miss! I literally just realized I've been calculating my cost basis wrong for years. I was using the grant date price instead of the vesting date price as my cost basis for calculating capital gains/losses. Probably been overpaying taxes on gains for years. Do you think I should file amended returns?

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Yes, you should definitely consider filing amended returns if you've been using the wrong cost basis! The cost basis for RSUs is always the fair market value on the vesting date (not the grant date), since that's when you already paid ordinary income tax on that amount. Using the grant date price as your cost basis means you've been paying capital gains tax on appreciation that was already taxed as ordinary income at vesting - essentially double taxation. If you've held and sold RSU shares over multiple years, this could add up to significant overpayment. You can file Form 1040X (Amended U.S. Individual Income Tax Return) for up to 3 years from the original filing date. You'll need your brokerage statements showing actual sale prices and your RSU vesting records showing the fair market value on each vesting date. The IRS will refund any overpaid taxes with interest. Given the complexity of equity compensation, this might be worth consulting with a tax professional who specializes in stock compensation to make sure you're calculating everything correctly before filing amendments.

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Is a Spotify Premium subscription tax deductible for my business?

Hey everyone, I've been searching everywhere online but can't find a clear answer about whether I can deduct my Spotify subscription as a business expense on my taxes. **Can I legitimately deduct my Spotify subscription?** My reasoning: 1. I run a graphic design business, and almost EVERY design I create incorporates quotes or concepts inspired by songs I discover through Spotify. 2. I literally spend hours each week exploring new music on Spotify searching for the perfect lyrics or mood to inspire my next design project. 3. A huge part of my client engagement comes from how my designs connect emotionally through the music-inspired elements. Clients frequently share my work specifically because of how the visual and lyrical components resonate with them. 1. Important: I never use direct copyrighted lyrics in my commercial designs - I always transform them into original concepts while maintaining the inspirational connection. 4. I maintain curated Spotify playlists that I share with my client base, sometimes featuring music from clients themselves, which builds stronger business relationships and leads to more project inquiries. 5. The music drastically enhances my productivity during design work and frequently sparks new creative concepts that translate into billable projects. I genuinely consider music streaming to be essential to my creative business operations. While I could use any platform, Spotify has become integral to my creative workflow. That's why I strongly believe my Spotify subscription should qualify as a legitimate business expense and be tax deductible. Without regular access to this music library for inspiration, my business simply wouldn't generate the same level of income. Would really appreciate your insights on this! Is this deductible or am I stretching things? Thanks everyone!

Just to offer another perspective - I'm a freelance writer and my accountant has approved deducting my Spotify premium as a business expense for years. I write articles about music and culture, so it's clearly connected to my income. For your graphic design business, I'd say it's in a gray area but defensible if you're really using it as you describe. The IRS isn't going to come after you for a $120/year deduction if you have a reasonable business purpose. Just make sure you can demonstrate how it connects to your income (maybe keep a spreadsheet showing which songs inspired which paid projects).

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I've been deducting my Netflix and Hulu subscriptions for my content marketing business for years! I write about entertainment trends and need to stay current on popular shows. Never had any issues with the IRS over it.

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As someone who's dealt with similar creative business deductions, I think you have a solid case for deducting your Spotify subscription. The connection between music inspiration and your graphic design income seems genuine and well-documented. A few practical suggestions to strengthen your position: 1. **Create a dedicated business playlist structure** - Keep playlists organized by client projects or design themes. This shows intentional business use rather than casual listening. 2. **Log inspiration connections** - Even a simple note in your project files mentioning "inspired by [song name] for emotional tone" creates a paper trail linking the subscription to billable work. 3. **Consider the 80/20 split you mentioned** - That seems reasonable, but tracking usage for a month could give you a more defensible percentage if questioned. 4. **Document client playlist sharing** - Since you mentioned sharing curated playlists with clients, keep records of these interactions as they directly support business relationship building. The "ordinary and necessary" test really comes down to whether other graphic designers commonly use music for inspiration (they do) and whether it's necessary for your specific business model (sounds like it is). A $10-12/month deduction with proper documentation is unlikely to raise red flags, especially given how integral music is to creative work. Just make sure you're consistent with your documentation approach across all similar subscription deductions.

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Another tip - if you had any kind of medical condition that prevented you from handling your financial affairs during the relevant period, you might qualify for the "financial disability" exception under Section 6511(h). This is an exception to the 3-year statute of limitations for refund claims. To qualify, you need to show that you had a physical or mental impairment that was either: 1) Fatal, or 2) Expected to last for at least 12 months And the impairment must have prevented you from managing your financial affairs. You'll need documentation from a physician to support this claim.

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My mother-in-law used this exception successfully! She had a severe stroke in 2020 that left her unable to manage her finances for over a year. When she recovered enough to get her affairs in order, the regular deadline had passed. We submitted her late refund claim with a letter from her doctor explaining her condition, and the IRS accepted it.

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That's great to hear a success story! The financial disability exception isn't well-known, but it can be a real lifesaver in the right circumstances. The key elements for anyone trying to use this exception are proper medical documentation and showing that there was no other person with authority to act on the taxpayer's behalf during the period (like a power of attorney). The physician statement needs to specifically state that the condition prevented financial management and give the specific dates of impairment. Form 2848 (Power of Attorney) histories are also typically reviewed by the IRS when considering these claims.

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Oliver Weber

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I'm really sorry to hear about your situation, Alice. This is such a frustrating aspect of tax law that catches many people off guard. The distinction between filing deadlines and refund statute expiration dates is definitely confusing. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like you have several potential avenues to explore: 1. **Disaster relief extensions** - Since you're in Arizona and there were federal disaster declarations in 2023, definitely check if your county qualified for extended deadlines that specifically mention refund claims. 2. **Financial disability exception** - If you had any medical conditions during the relevant period that prevented you from managing your finances, this could be worth exploring with proper medical documentation. 3. **Appeal process** - Even though your initial appeal was denied, don't give up. Make sure you're presenting all possible exceptions and citing the correct tax code sections. The fact that you have certified mail proof showing you mailed it by the deadline demonstrates good faith effort on your part. While the receipt vs. postmark rule is unfortunately clear for refund claims, there might be other exceptions that apply to your specific circumstances. $3,200 is definitely worth fighting for! I'd recommend gathering all your documentation and exploring these exceptions systematically. Good luck with your case!

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This is really helpful advice, Oliver! I'm new to dealing with IRS issues and honestly feeling pretty overwhelmed by all the different rules and exceptions. It's encouraging to hear that there might be other options beyond just accepting the initial denial. I didn't realize there were so many potential exceptions to the 3-year rule. The disaster relief angle is particularly interesting - I remember there was some flooding in parts of Arizona in 2023, but I'll need to check if my specific county was included in any federal disaster declarations. One question - when you mention "citing the correct tax code sections" in the appeal process, how do you figure out which sections to reference? Is this something I should try to research myself or would it be better to get professional help at this point? I'm worried about missing something important or not presenting my case in the right way. Thanks for taking the time to lay out these options so clearly!

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Norah Quay

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Has anyone had the experience where TurboTax actually does let you e-file with Form 7202? My husband could swear he e-filed with it last year. Feel like some of this info might be outdated.

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Leo McDonald

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Your husband might be mixing up forms. Form 7202 definitely cannot be e-filed through any tax software - it's an IRS limitation, not a TurboTax one. He might have e-filed with a different COVID-related form, but 7202 specifically for self-employed sick leave credit has always required paper filing for amendments.

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CosmicCadet

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I went through this exact same situation earlier this year! After reading through all the responses here, I ended up using taxr.ai like Sophie and Connor mentioned, and it was honestly a game-changer for my Form 7202 amendment. The key thing that helped me was realizing that no matter which route you go - TurboTax's delayed 1040X feature, switching to new software, or using an AI service - you're still going to have to print and mail the forms. The IRS just doesn't accept e-filed amendments with Form 7202 attached, period. What made taxr.ai worth it for me was the time savings. As a self-employed person with multiple income streams like you, re-entering everything from scratch would have been a nightmare. The PDF upload feature worked perfectly and caught all my Schedule C details accurately. My advice: don't wait for TurboTax's 1040X feature if you want your refund sooner. Use one of the automated services to prepare your amendment, send it certified mail like Kelsey suggested, and then use Claimyr if you need to follow up with the IRS later. The whole process will still take months, but at least you'll get it started quickly!

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Savannah Vin

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This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation as a freelance consultant and was dreading having to re-enter all my quarterly estimated payments and business deductions. The PDF upload approach sounds like exactly what I need. Quick question - when you mailed your amendment, did you include a cover letter explaining the Form 7202 addition, or did you just send the forms as-is? I've heard mixed advice on whether a brief explanation helps or just creates more confusion for the processors. Also, roughly how long did your whole process take from preparation to actually receiving the refund? I know amendments are slow, but it would help to set realistic expectations.

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Leila Haddad

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I work for a tax preparation service and see this issue frequently with VA state refunds, especially during peak filing season. What many people don't realize is that Virginia uses a third-party vendor for printing and mailing refund checks, which can add additional delays beyond the "issued" date shown in their system. The 6+ week timeline you're experiencing is unfortunately becoming more common this year - we've had at least a dozen clients report similar delays. Here's what I recommend: 1) Call VA Tax at 804-367-8031 first thing Monday morning (they're less busy early in the week), 2) Have your SSN and exact refund amount ready, 3) Ask specifically about "delivery confirmation" status, not just issuance status, and 4) Request they initiate both a payment trace AND a stop payment on the original check simultaneously. Don't let them tell you to wait longer - 6+ weeks is well beyond reasonable delivery timeframes. Also, consider requesting the replacement be sent via certified mail for an additional $3.50 fee - it's worth it for the tracking and security.

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This is really helpful information, especially about the third-party vendor for printing and mailing! I had no idea that could cause additional delays beyond what shows in VA's system. As someone new to Virginia taxes (just moved here last year), I was expecting the same timeline I experienced with other states. The tip about calling early Monday morning is great - I've been trying to call mid-week when they're probably swamped. I'm definitely going to ask about that certified mail option for the replacement check. An extra $3.50 is nothing compared to the stress of wondering if a second check will also disappear into the mail system. Thanks for the professional insight!

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Omar Fawaz

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I had the exact same issue with my VA state refund last year! Check was "issued" on February 3rd, and I didn't receive it until April 8th - that's over 9 weeks. Turns out it was a combination of issues: the original check got lost in the mail (likely stolen from my apartment complex's mailbox area), and then VA's replacement process took forever because they had to verify the original wasn't cashed. What finally worked for me was being persistent with their phone line and documenting everything. I called every few days after the 6-week mark and kept detailed notes of who I spoke with and what they told me. Eventually got connected with a supervisor who expedited the replacement check process. One thing that might help - if you have any neighbors who received VA refunds around the same timeframe, ask them about their experience. In my case, two other people in my building also had VA checks go missing around the same time, which helped establish a pattern of mail theft that made VA more willing to fast-track the replacement. Don't give up! It's frustrating but you will eventually get your money. The squeaky wheel gets the grease with these situations.

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