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I'm actually a bit confused why you need Form 8453 at all? I've been e-filing for years and have never had to mail anything afterward. Most tax software handles everything electronically now.
It depends on your specific tax situation. Form 8453 is only required in certain cases where you have documents that can't be e-filed. Most common e-filed returns don't need it anymore, but there are exceptions like certain paper statements that require signatures, supporting documentation for specific deductions, or certain types of foreign income reporting.
I had a similar situation last year! The 3 business day rule mentioned earlier is correct - you wait for IRS acceptance confirmation, then mail Form 8453 within 3 business days. One thing that might help with your timing concerns: you can actually prepare everything in advance. Get your Form 8453 ready to go (just don't sign it until after e-file acceptance), put all required attachments together, and have the envelope addressed and stamped. That way, as soon as you get the acceptance email, you can quickly sign the form and drop it in the mail. Since you're leaving April 20th, I'd suggest e-filing by April 15th at the latest to give yourself a buffer. Most e-file acceptances come through within 24-48 hours, so you should have time to mail the 8453 before your trip. Also double-check with your tax software exactly which documents you need to include - sometimes it flags Form 8453 when it's not actually required for your specific situation.
This is really helpful advice about preparing everything in advance! I'm in a similar situation where I need to travel soon after filing. Quick question - when you say "don't sign it until after e-file acceptance," does that mean the signature date on Form 8453 should match the date you actually mail it, not the date you originally filed electronically? I want to make sure I'm not creating any timing issues with the IRS by having mismatched dates.
Quick tip from someone who's been through 2 audits: Start a dedicated email folder for all tax-related expenses the moment you spend the money. Take pics of receipts immediately and email them to yourself with a descriptive subject line. I use categories like "Office Supplies 2025" or "Client Meeting March 2025." Also, for any home office deduction, take date-stamped photos of your workspace. The IRS questioned my home office in 2023, and having photos with metadata showing it was exclusively a workspace saved me. For charitable donations, always get those acknowledgment letters and keep them organized by year.
Do you think it's better to use tax software or hire an accountant if you're self-employed? I've been using TurboTax but wondering if that makes me more likely to be audited?
Tax software is fine for simpler self-employment situations, but once you're making over $50K or have multiple income streams, an accountant often pays for themselves. They catch deductions you might miss and know how to properly categorize expenses to avoid red flags. Using TurboTax doesn't increase audit risk if you're inputting everything correctly. However, a good accountant provides audit protection and will represent you if questions arise. The real audit triggers are unusual deductions, round numbers (like claiming exactly $1,000 for supplies), or reporting business losses for multiple years. Whatever system you use, documentation is your best protection!
The IRS audit process isn't as scary as most people think. I got audited in 2023 and it was basically just paperwork. My advice: don't claim expenses you can't document and be super precise with everything you report.
I want to echo what others have said about the Delinquent FBAR Submission being likely appropriate for your situation. I went through this exact process two years ago with foreign accounts totaling about $42k. The key thing that helped me was organizing everything before I started filing. I created a spreadsheet with all my foreign accounts, their highest balances for each year, and verified that all income from these accounts was properly reported on my tax returns. This made the actual FBAR filing much smoother. One thing I wish someone had told me - when you're calculating the highest balance during the year for each account, you need to convert to USD using the Treasury's exchange rates for that specific year. The BSA E-Filing system will ask for this information, and having it prepared ahead of time saved me a lot of back-and-forth with currency conversions. Also, don't overthink the explanation section. I simply wrote "I was unaware of FBAR filing requirements until 2022" and included the date I became aware of the requirement. The IRS accepted all my filings without any follow-up questions. The whole process took me about 3 weeks from start to finish, and I haven't heard anything from the IRS since submitting them. Sometimes the simplest approach really is the right one.
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I've been feeling overwhelmed trying to organize all this information. One quick question: when you mention using Treasury exchange rates for specific years, where exactly do I find those historical rates? I have accounts in euros and pounds, and I want to make sure I'm using the correct conversion rates for each year rather than just current rates. Also, did you file all 6 years of FBARs at once, or spread them out over time? I'm wondering if there's any advantage to doing them simultaneously versus one at a time.
You can find the historical Treasury exchange rates at the Treasury's website - just search for "Treasury Reporting Rates of Exchange" and they have tables going back years for all major currencies. For each FBAR year, you'll want to use December 31st rates (or the last business day if Dec 31st falls on a weekend). I filed all 6 years within about a week of each other once I had everything organized. There's no real advantage to spacing them out, and doing them together meant I had all the currency conversion rates and account information fresh in my mind. The BSA E-Filing system lets you save your progress, so you can work on multiple years and submit them when ready. One tip: if you have the same accounts across multiple years, you can often copy most of the information from one year to the next and just update the balances and dates. This saves a lot of time on data entry.
I'm in a very similar situation and your post really resonates with me. I discovered FBAR requirements just last month when preparing my 2023 taxes, and like you, I've been living in the US since 2018 with foreign accounts I never knew needed separate reporting. After reading through all the responses here and doing my own research, I wanted to share what I learned from speaking with an EA (Enrolled Agent) who specializes in international tax issues. She confirmed that for people like us who properly reported all foreign income on our tax returns but simply didn't know about FBAR filing, the Delinquent FBAR Submission is definitely the right path. The key questions she had me ask myself were: 1) Did I report all foreign income on my tax returns? 2) Was there any intent to hide assets? 3) Are my total foreign assets under the really high thresholds that would trigger additional scrutiny? Since you mentioned your assets are around $38k and you've been properly reporting income, you should qualify for the simple delinquent filing process. The horror stories you're reading about massive penalties are typically for cases involving tax evasion or very large unreported assets. One practical tip: before you start the FBAR filings, gather all your foreign account statements for the past 6 years and create a simple spreadsheet with highest balances for each account by year. This will make the actual filing process much smoother. You've got this! The anxiety is the worst part, but the actual compliance process is more straightforward than it initially appears.
CP75 audits are definitely rough - had one last year and it took about 8 months total. The key is to respond quickly with all the documentation they request (W-2s, bank statements, childcare records if you claimed EIC with kids). Don't wait for them to send follow-up letters. Also keep copies of everything you send them because they "lose" stuff sometimes. The interest does help a little when you finally get your refund but obviously waiting that long sucks.
@Julian Paolo that s'super helpful advice! Quick question - when you sent your documentation, did you use certified mail or just regular mail? I m'paranoid about them claiming they never received it. Also, did you have to provide bank statements for the whole year or just specific months?
@Julian Paolo definitely sending everything certified mail from now on! One more question - did you have to get a tax professional involved or were you able to handle the CP75 response yourself? I m'wondering if it s'worth the cost to have someone help with the documentation
Noland Curtis
Be careful about keeping a business technically "open" but dormant for too long. I did this and it created some unexpected complications: 1) Had to keep filing zero-income Schedule C forms each year 2) Some states (like California) have minimum franchise taxes even for inactive businesses 3) Had to maintain certain business licenses and registrations which cost money 4) Created confusion with local tax authorities If you don't realistically expect to restart the business within a year or two, sometimes it's cleaner to just close it properly and start fresh if needed later. Those QBI losses might never be usable if you're fully transitioned to W2 income anyway.
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Diez Ellis
•I second this. I kept my LLC "alive" for 3 years after stopping operations and it was a pain. Annual fees, extra tax forms, and explanations to lenders about the "dormant business" on my tax returns when applying for a mortgage. Not worth it unless you have a concrete plan to restart operations.
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Keisha Johnson
This is a great discussion that touches on something I dealt with recently. One thing worth considering is the interaction between QBI losses and the overall Section 199A deduction limitation based on your taxable income. Even if you do generate future QBI to offset those carryforward losses, remember that the Section 199A deduction is still limited to 20% of your taxable income minus net capital gains. So if you're earning W2 income and have other deductions that reduce your taxable income significantly, you might not be able to fully utilize the QBI benefit even when you do have positive qualified business income. I learned this the hard way when I started a small side business thinking I could immediately benefit from my old QBI losses. The math worked out differently than I expected because of the taxable income limitation. It's another factor to consider when deciding whether to keep a dormant business alive or just close it cleanly. Also, regarding the state-level complications others mentioned - some states don't follow federal QBI rules at all, so you could be maintaining a business entity for federal tax benefits that don't even apply at the state level where you might owe annual fees or taxes.
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Hiroshi Nakamura
•This is exactly the kind of nuanced detail that makes QBI planning so tricky! I hadn't fully considered how the taxable income limitation could affect the ability to actually use those carryforward losses even when you do generate QBI again. Your point about state-level differences is particularly important too. It seems like there are so many moving parts to consider - federal QBI rules, state conformity issues, entity maintenance costs, and now the taxable income cap limitations. Makes me wonder if keeping a business technically alive just for potential future QBI benefits is really worth it for most people, especially if they're primarily W2 employees going forward. Did you end up closing your dormant business after realizing the taxable income limitation issue, or did you find ways to work around it?
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